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loveyouradvice · 26/05/2025 15:06
Just checking we can refer to TIM as he now? I think so... The deeply admirable Helen Joyce does and I share her rationale...
Goes all the way back to the sublime Pronouns are rohypnol from a much loved mums netter...
BeckyAMumsnet · 02/06/2025 16:43
Thanks for your questions. It’s completely understandable that you want some clarity and since the recent ruling we have been carefully reviewing our moderation approach in light of it. To be clear, our moderation decisions are not based solely on quoting legal rulings as we are obviously not a court of law! While we take this into account, ultimately it is about keeping the site welcoming and fair for everyone regardless of their views.
Our core principles remain unchanged. We stand with the vulnerable, including women, trans people, and anyone affected by systemic inequality or marginalisation. We support open discussion and have long welcomed a range of views, whether gender-critical or trans-inclusive, as long as they follow the Talk guidelines. We welcome reasoned debate and expect all users to engage with respect, particularly toward those personally affected. Posts that deliberately use names or pronouns to provoke, harass, or target others on a thread will be removed.
We’ll also no longer use a rigid three strikes system. Occasional deletions will not automatically lead to sanctions but repeated breaches may affect your account as they do across the rest of Talk.
Our aim remains to strike a balance between protecting space for genuine debate and ensuring all posters, whatever their views, can take part in good faith.
Thanks MNHQ
BeckyAMumsnet · 03/06/2025 09:16
akkakk · 03/06/2025 08:48
I think I can see and understand the fine line Mumsnet are trying to walk…
basically I would say crack on using correct pronouns, but if there are instances where a poster is deliberately trying to rile / annoy / etc someone else they may act… and I would assume that this applies however one person tries to annoy another.
It might mean sometimes not engaging with a particularly awkward poster, but stating your own philosophy / GC / legal based beliefs that there is only one pronoun for men and one for women is unlikely to be an issue - stalking the other poster through a thread / across the board correcting their misuse of pronouns might understandably be seen as aggressive and inappropriate
Yes - thank you, this is a really good summary and very much in the spirit of how we’re approaching things.
To clarify slightly further, users are welcome to state their views on pronouns, sex-based language, and so on, including gender-critical perspectives. That in itself isn’t a problem.
Where we’re more likely to step in is when it becomes targeted - for example, repeatedly correcting another poster in a way that feels goading or hostile, or using pronouns pointedly to belittle or provoke. As always, it’s about context and intent, rather than fixed rules. If something crosses the line into personal attack or sustained disrespect, we’ll act, as we would in any other part of Talk.
We’re always happy to clarify any decisions further if needed.
BeckyAMumsnet · 03/06/2025 09:17
IwantToRetire · 02/06/2025 21:07
Just to let you know we're discussing this at MNHQ and will update as soon as we can.
So the post seemingly from MNHQ hasn't yet been discussed by MNHQ?
Not so - we sent this email before we posted here.
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