Nicola Sturgeon will never admit she could be wrong

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Utterly entrenched:
https://www.thetimes.com/article/9451298d-e9d2-4498-92a3-76da03ce6d57?shareToken=186bc72a73ad79b6ee5c728b2a542e4f

“Massively overinterpreted”?

I guess it must be, if it includes her.

Thank goodness for the voices of reason from Sue Smith and MBM!

The chaos created from the death knells of this madness is a sight to behold! They are never going to admit defeat - but am comforted by the knowledge that the fish flapping about on dry land does eventually die!

I am struggling to be honest. I’ve had to stop looking because it’s enraging. One of the things that’s upsetting is the widespread condemnation of women as regressive bigots- and how individuals will cram that accusation onto people they know well regardless! As in, friends and family members who know you and have seen you being proactively liberal and accepting of everything else will happily sneer at your bigotry about this one issue rather than interrogate their own beliefs.

This quote is a good one; “They need to read the judgment, obtain their own legal advice and ignore the former first minister, whose contributions on this subject remain as unhelpful as ever.”

Absolutely. I’m quite depressed about friends and family who’ve no good argument but assume you’ve switched to the right because you’re fighting what is essentially a men’s rights movement. I only have a handful of friends I can talk to without judgement and I’m using them like a hotline!

“Many of those who are on the other side [of the issue] say it is all about protecting women,” she told the festival.

“Isn’t it ironic that I have probably had more misogynistic abuse as a result of this issue than on any other issue in my entire political career. Go figure.”

I'd like to see some examples of what she means by misogynistic abuse and where it's coming from.

Is she suggesting that this misogynistic abuse is being dished out by women trying to protect their rights?

When JK Rowling called her a destroyer of women's rights was that misogynistic abuse?

The former first minister said she would always be an “ally of the trans community” and said politicians would need to legislate if “trans lives become impossible to live”

I feel enraged reading this too. How the fuck would trans lives become impossible to live? As usual no thought or regard to the lives of women from Sturgeon.

‘notice me ! Notice me! Notice me! I’m still important , Immstill influential, I’m really beloved by the Scottish People! I am ! I I I AM!’

Yea, yes dear. Now put your toys away tidily.

Sturgeon, whose memoir Frankly is due to be released this August, also spoke about the way she had been treated as a woman in politics.

She's happy to keep throwing women under the bus so TRAs will buy her book. No one else is going to.

God, Nicola! You are wilfully obtuse!

To paraphrase the redoubtable Doctor Hunter...

I think our Nicola is a true believer. It honestly baffles me how she can simply not see the harm done to women, children, gays and lesbians but it looks like she really can’t.

NS’s inability to reflect and listen to others has been her downfall. Not just on this. Sad really. And hugely frustrating for the rest of us!

Was she not investigated for professional misconduct when she was a lawyer so she’s hardly an expert legal mind!

www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1418932/Nicola-sturgeon-news-snp-latest-sturgeon-legal-career/amp

She’s always confused stubborn and unrelenting intransigence, in the face of all evidence, for a personality, so I’m entirely unsurprised she’s still got her mind closed on this. She won’t change. She sees it as a badge of honour to stick to her guns come what may, and doesn’t understand that an intelligent person is able to remain open to contrary information and opinions, and is able to flexibly change their own when new compelling evidence is available.

I was thinking about this the other day. People who have fought for trans rights are psychologically boxed in. If they admit they were wrong they have to admit to themselves, and others, that were advancing the interests of rapists and sex offenders, and voyeurs and men who enjoy exerting power and control over women. That would have to admit that they were assisting such men to force women to submit to them.

It’s too psychologically threatening for most people to do this. Someone like Sturgeon will never do this. It would take a moral and intellectual courage she clearly lacks.

She’s never going to seriously look into the genuinely feminist counter arguments to her pro-TRA position. It’s too scary for her to do so. She doesn’t want to accept she was wrong. Look what she would have to admit to herself to do so. It would threaten her entire understanding of herself. She’s much rather continue deluding herself.

And thats even before we get onto medically transitioning children and young people.

I’d say that is the defining aspect of her personality and ultimately became her Achilles heel.

She's in denial, and she's the only person who can get her out of it. Everyone knows gender ideology is a load of shit, so in order to "believe" in it, a person has got to lie to themselves. That level of self-deception takes some doing, so to undo it would be very psychologically damaging to her.

I've tried to find out what misogynistic abuse Sturgeon has received on this issue, but I've failed. For context, I found this article from 2017, with examples of misogynistic abuse she had received back then, which makes for pretty unpleasant reading.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15150383.police-investigating-horrific-catalogue-threats-abuse-nicola-sturgeon/

Apparently, the misogynistic abuse she's received from women concerned about their rights is worse. I find this hard to believe.

Also when you’re entrenched like this, one way to delude yourself you’re right is to make out you’re some kind of extra-heroic last one standing who’ll go down with the righteous ship. ‘I’ll be an ally forever!” Don’t think about what that means in terms of medicalised harm to gay and autistic kids and endangering and shutting out women. Just lap up the adulation of the other believers.

It's funny people like NS getting so angry at the SC ruling on one hand, but insisting on the other it doesn't change anything.

There's not a hypocrisy that woman wouldn't stick to as long as she's being heard.

File under: ignore.

And let’s face it. Sturgeon’s only success has been managing to keep getting re-elected in a country without an effective opposition party. She hasn’t managed to deliver on any significant policy area.

At the end of the day, Sturgeon was skilled at marketing herself but poor on delivery in government.

I don’t think she will go down well in history.

I don’t like Alex Salmond, and I’m a Unionist, but Alex Salmond was by far the better politician. He took the SNP from a minority to majority party, and he grew the independence movement to a point where he came close to achieving his ultimate goal.

NS road the coat tails of his success in growing the independence movement, which kept her in power. But failed to deliver anything but small, easy wins and none of the big change Scotland needed.

It’s well seen she never made it as a lawyer herself.

She is in a bubble where everyone thinks the same. She doesn't strike me as the sort who has a bunch of mates with daughters, who pops into the local shopping centre and uses the toilets. She is in an elite bubble and cannot imagine how the rest of us live.

She knows well she's wrong, she knows well the harm that's been done to women and children. She doesn't care.

There was a study (conducted by Harvard?) that showed people meet their social needs using two strategies; they need to feel liked, and they need to be perceived as right.
(Feminists tend to rely on facts and worry less about being likeable, but we are probably outliers.)
Some ideologies meet both needs. People who subscribe to them are unlikely to be able to change their minds since it means breaking two connections, and admitting the people they called enemies were right all along.