LGBA on Woman's Hour 19/05/25

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Kate Barker-Mawjee will be speaking on behalf of LGBA

Good that WH is starting with a safeguarding Panorama expose programme about alleged emotional abusive practices by a male coach on young swimmers.

On now!

Presenter explaining the background

https://x.com/AllianceLGB/status/1924375419106562269

It will be nice to hear a bit more sense after Amnestys rubbish.

Yeah, Kate has definitely read the decision.

"Who are you referring to when you say 'men'"

All 30 pages! And then the other 50+!

What about the men. Again.

She confirms that she includes transwomen in her men definition

It might be all about the men again but this means that Kate Barker can answer in very clear terms why being able to say that transwomen are men is so important.

Dating apps are a good illustration of the problems. Better than toilets in some ways.

Lesbians will excert their boundaries and will exclude men from their dating pools but that's deemed transphobic

"I prefer to say trans identified male"

"Stop it, it's ridiculous!!"

"Stop it"

Response to transwomen claiming to be lesbians

oh yes, "you haven't met the right dick yet". Good stuff

"Today a man with a beard who may be married... can say I'm a lesbian..."

Words mean things!

Yes!

If a lesbian dates a transwoman is she still a lesbian?

" No"

I can't believe that this poor woman is being made to explain, repeatedly, why she doesn't include males in her definition of same sex attracted lesbians.

It's abusive, it's in unkind and it's unpleasant

"We are seeing our communities dying"

"Lesbians felt 'less than' within the LGBTQ"

"The LBGT+ lobby has a new found interest in lesbians"

After basically ignoring them for so bloody long!

"They think it's a gotcha"

I think the average WH listener, coming to this for the first time and hearing all 4 interviews, will be left in no doubt that the SC ruling was something to celebrate.

It's infuriating to hear men's voices like RMW's and AI bloke's on Woman's Hour, but in this case I think it's been a really useful strategy to hear both sides. Theirs just does not have ANY strong arguments, and their weak 'because we don't like it' case, put in male voices, makes it clear why the SC ruling was so important and necessary.

"The charities had forgotten lesbians even exist "