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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

A trans woman is on the sort list to represent Unison’s female disabled members on their executive committee

35 replies

ScrollingLeaves · 18/05/2025 21:30

It is only so far being reported in GB News, The Telegraph, and The Daily Mail.

Maybe the man in question will not be chosen in the end but Unison is evidently not a good union for women if they are pursuing this approach in spite of the recent ruling that Women in the Equality Act are a sex not an identity.

Waple has vowed to take her seat if elected, telling the Telegraph: 'The biggest threat to women’s rights is not trans people, but rather the one per cent of super-powerful rich, clinging to their wealth and denying real funding for housing, domestic violence services and women’s services.
'The undemocratic and unaccountable Supreme Court ruling plays to the false narrative and agenda that trans people are a threat to women and will only serve to create a climate of fear among trans people.

Unison said it was an internal electoral issue that is consistent with its long-standing rules,
(Daily Mail)

The fact that Unison/Waple thinks it is ok to take the place of an actual woman on this short list of disabled ‘women’, only goes to prove the narrative that men identifying as women are a problem for women.

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Theeyeballsinthesky · 18/05/2025 21:34

Unison continue to really hate women

Helleofabore · 18/05/2025 21:38

So female people don’t deserve same sex representation? That seems like a really responsive union to belong to.

myplace · 18/05/2025 21:38

Bloody hell.

orangegato · 18/05/2025 21:42

Why are women paying their subs? Teach them a lesson FFS.

They won’t represent you anyway if you were to get in the shit, they will always side with men.

ScrollingLeaves · 18/05/2025 22:04

It seems Unison wants to make a point of showing that for them
‘trans women are women’.

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Vargas · 18/05/2025 22:18

Unison are misogynistic idiots.

KnottyAuty · 18/05/2025 22:18

Wow. So they are now open for sex discrimination cases. Presumably from any woman who missed out on a place on the ballot. Or if he wins, any of the other women on the shortlist. Who are these women? And are any GC?

ETA At this point any GC women need to leave unison and go elsewhere.

DuesToTheDirt · 18/05/2025 23:07

Patently, and blatantly, illegal. Is it not being challenged?

Toseland · 18/05/2025 23:48

Well we can tell they are not a woman 'cos they like trains. That's how we tell in toddlers apparently, so why not in adults?

DoodlesMam · 18/05/2025 23:50

ScrollingLeaves · 18/05/2025 21:30

It is only so far being reported in GB News, The Telegraph, and The Daily Mail.

Maybe the man in question will not be chosen in the end but Unison is evidently not a good union for women if they are pursuing this approach in spite of the recent ruling that Women in the Equality Act are a sex not an identity.

Waple has vowed to take her seat if elected, telling the Telegraph: 'The biggest threat to women’s rights is not trans people, but rather the one per cent of super-powerful rich, clinging to their wealth and denying real funding for housing, domestic violence services and women’s services.
'The undemocratic and unaccountable Supreme Court ruling plays to the false narrative and agenda that trans people are a threat to women and will only serve to create a climate of fear among trans people.

Unison said it was an internal electoral issue that is consistent with its long-standing rules,
(Daily Mail)

The fact that Unison/Waple thinks it is ok to take the place of an actual woman on this short list of disabled ‘women’, only goes to prove the narrative that men identifying as women are a problem for women.

A man dressed as a woman.

Seriestwo · 19/05/2025 00:24

This man has a lot of challenges. Is he robust enough for a role like this?

Aside from being the wrong sex, I mean

TheOtherRaven · 19/05/2025 07:40

Already declaring his mission to re educate women, silence their unwanted voices, and largely use his role to direct womanhood into the narrow channel most convenient to him. As always.

It's illegal. End of. But it's going to end like the Green party - emptied of all diversity and balance until it's just a lingering small group of the extremists.

Cerialkiller · 19/05/2025 07:48

Is it illegal? Was the position specified as for women? (In that case then obvs yes) But it is actually illegal (other then just fucking stupid) for a man to represent women in this way?

Can it only be taken by a disabled woman? Can it just be a woman or could it be a disabled man? Genuine question.

MrsFinkelstein · 19/05/2025 07:50

I voted and I certainly didn't vote for him. I'm hoping the majority of members did the same.

ScrollingLeaves · 19/05/2025 08:50

MrsFinkelstein · 19/05/2025 07:50

I voted and I certainly didn't vote for him. I'm hoping the majority of members did the same.

That’s interesting that you actually voted @MrsFinkelstein. Do you happen to know the answer to @Cerialkiller’s questions?

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Cerialkiller · 19/05/2025 09:09

ScrollingLeaves · 19/05/2025 08:50

That’s interesting that you actually voted @MrsFinkelstein. Do you happen to know the answer to @Cerialkiller’s questions?

I've done some googling and it looks like it was indeed a woman's seat so as PP have said, illegal. Idiots. I hope he gets in and the other candidates sue.

More likely its just a play from unison to still be seen to be toeing the TRA line but they will hire a woman to comply with the law and deprive us of the satisfaction of them peaking a chunk of their members.

Do we know if their membership has declined noticably in recent years or at key points in this battle? Would be interesting to know.

MrsFinkelstein · 19/05/2025 15:51

ScrollingLeaves · 19/05/2025 08:50

That’s interesting that you actually voted @MrsFinkelstein. Do you happen to know the answer to @Cerialkiller’s questions?

I can't remember the exact wording but it was a female seat.

pontefractals · 19/05/2025 16:00

KnottyAuty · 18/05/2025 22:18

Wow. So they are now open for sex discrimination cases. Presumably from any woman who missed out on a place on the ballot. Or if he wins, any of the other women on the shortlist. Who are these women? And are any GC?

ETA At this point any GC women need to leave unison and go elsewhere.

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Can you point to a union in the same sector that ISN'T captured? It's all a nightmare.

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 19/05/2025 16:06

Unison had better have a word with their lawyers and review their rules. They cannot reserve a place on a list for women and allow a transwoman to take a place but not other men. Both sexes or one sex, no mix'n'match. Them's the rules.

It might need a man to bring a case forward under employment discrimination (which also applies to trade unions) but there might be some other bit of the Equality Act 2010 that applies directly to this situation, same as it applies to not counting transwomen towards women's places on public boards in Scotland. Which was exactly the case that came to the Supreme Court and the Scottish government were told "no you can't do that".

HappyNewTaxYear · 19/05/2025 16:47

Interesting comment from this person’s ex-flatmate on X

MrsFinkelstein · 19/05/2025 17:15

pontefractals · 19/05/2025 16:00

Can you point to a union in the same sector that ISN'T captured? It's all a nightmare.

That's my issue.

As a practising Nurse I need to be in a union. But the RCN is just as bad.

VeraWangTea · 19/05/2025 17:21

This is why I voted with me feet.

I took my fees elsewhere.

I gave a reason for my departure and got a ‘we can’t all have the same views sorry you’re leaving’

VeraWangTea · 19/05/2025 17:26

HappyNewTaxYear · 19/05/2025 16:47

Interesting comment from this person’s ex-flatmate on X

For us on X what was said?

Pleasantsort · 19/05/2025 17:32

Makes me so angry the years I paid into that union and the unpaid hours I gave them as a rep. F🤬 them. They all voted amongst themselves . All the same people got sent to conference etc and it still happens. No doubt I will not be the only one on this page. Makes me so angry. Aye I don't bother with them anymore- they despise women. Them and their handmaidens.

Pleasantsort · 19/05/2025 17:33

VeraWangTea · 19/05/2025 17:26

For us on X what was said?

Yes please can I see it too, I'm not on social media?

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