Real life handmaids tale: Adriana Smith

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is there a thread on this yet?

Adriana smith is brain dead and her family want to turn the machines off. But because this is Georgia she is being kept on life support because she was pregnant. The fetus has fluid on the brain is highly likely to be disabled. The family who want to turn the life support off will be liable for the medical bills and care for the child.

this was also an episode of handmaids tale.

A corpse literally has more rights than her as you cannot use a corpses organs without consent.

I don’t really know what to say other than I’m disgusted at the treatment of this poor woman and her family. I came here looking for a thread and didn’t see one, sorry if I missed it

I wonder what happened to that baby and to Iver, referenced above. Were they delivered healthy? How the hell do they grow up well adjusted knowing they were gestated in their mother's dead body? It's horrific.

This is quite an informative page on wikipedia, but I think hasn't been updated for a while, let alone post Trump 2024.

But at the time was written there was only reports of around 30 cases of a woman in a coma being pregnant and kept alive. And only 12 babies safely delivered.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maternal_somatic_support_after_brain_death

Exactly. What will they tell this poor child?

This is why - part of why - I say all this gender stuff and the erosion of women's rights was planned.
They want to learn if they can use non-sentient women's bodies as reproductive machines.

Who is “they”?

Poor young woman.

I imagine if she had a choice (obviously she doesn’t now), she might want her baby to live though? Most mothers would. It’s not a her or the baby scenario. She’s already gone sadly.

It’s not that the state is keeping her alive so her baby can be given to someone else who can’t have children, I assume he will be raised by family with his sibling, in the same way as if the mother died in childbirth. So hardly Handmaids Tale stuff

I don’t understand why the family is liable for medical bills though? Family members aren’t liable for relatives debts here, not even spouses. Does it work differently in the US?

Wouldn’t they be written off when she’s declared dead anyway, unless she has left money as part of her own estate that it could be taken from?

As shown, too tired to type out again

I tried to answer with a screenshot of my earlier elaboration, because I think it holds weight. Maybe I can send you the screenshot instead, is that ok?

You can only think this is acceptable if you also think women are passive incubators.

And these 'baby at all costs ' approaches never centre child wellbeing anyway. What kind of a life could one have, learning eventually that your mother was effectively deceased while you grew?
Donahue and Levitt argued decades ago that the drop in u.s. crime rates in the 1990s could be traced to the legalisation of abortion in the 70s. This supports the point that forcing unwilling women to raise unwanted children doesn't work well for the kids either. It's a dreadful idea, forcing women who don't want to be mothers, to raise children they didn't plan for.

The cyncic in me says this is nothing to do with the baby. Its an opportunity for an experiment, abhorrent that the family has been made to fund it

Well that escalated quickly 😳

Slower than one would think. Some incredibly astute women, been lucky to meet a few, recognised back in 1994 that this was all coming, and have been working all this time to halt it. Way back then, absolutely everyone ridiculed those women, me included. If only I'd listened.

What happened in 1994?

And how is the gender issue related? Anti-abortion people are also violently antitrans, anti-gay etc.?

Sounds like a classic conspiracy theory

'Classic conspiracy theory' sounds like a classic effort to pre-emptively discredit a theorem before making any effort to investigate its potential veracity.

Some theories don’t merit the time and effort of investigation. I didn’t have to investigate the conspiracy theories about Covid and the vaccine to know they weren’t true

Theorem? Or theory? They're not the same thing.

You can choose :)

🙄

The baby has been delivered by caeserean weighing 1lb 13oz.

Although not in this news report apparently Adriana's life support was turned off today.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1jwl9l9yneo

The baby has been delivered by c section. 1lb 13oz. And I think around 25/26 weeks gestation.

1lb 3oz! Is that correct?

I thought babies on average were 7lb 7.

If that’s the case then this is beyond the pale. It was awful to begin with as the family should have been able to make a decision as to what the mother would have likely wished in the event the baby could be born healthy. However 1lb 3oz! Surely they would have known that from scans. That is not a healthy weight and no doubt indicates serious issues?

I just; there are no words. That poor woman. They could have gone together and atleast they would always be together.

It's a decent weight for that gestation.
Baby was born at 25/26 weeks rather than 40, hence the low weight.

Hopefully baby will be fine and will love a long happy life. It's a tragic situation, but at least mum can be properly laid to rest now.