Unions threatening strike action if males with a trans identity not allowed access to female toilets.

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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14717831/amp/Civil-servants-threaten-strikes-transgender-toilets.html

I'm genuinely perplexed by what they hope to achieve here. The outcome can't be for the government just to ignore the law.

Will we find out how many members do actually support the Supreme Court ruling as surely a vote will be required?

Me too, civil servant with PCS. Ready to leave if I can’t find another union. (The union, not the job)

In other union news ..

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/05/18/uk-biggest-union-unison-trans-woman-runs-senior-female-role/

They can’t get off on listening to women pee or generally making women feel uncomfortable if they’re in a single cubicle gender neutral toilet on their own.

That’s why they’ve never campaigned for third spaces …….but at the same time they’ll insist “we just need to pee”🙄

https://x.com/Jonnywsbell/status/1923672196775334329

I am and I was just thinking that GC. Our branch have apparently produced a commentary on the Cass Review. I’ve decided that my blood pressure and I have better things to do with our time than read it.

On the bright side this is one motion, pushed by one lunatic member at one branch. Can’t see it winning a massive national mandate myself.

Yeah. This type of man is only interested in boundaries if crossing them will make women suffer in some way.

Yep, third spaces don't entice them at all. How boring having a toilet with only other creepy men in it.

Loads of people are leaving PCS already. This will just make even more leave.

OMG I just listened to that clip - and the sole woman between two TiMs whose function was to laugh supportively at what they were saying. WTF has the world come to?

As a 23 year old male IT technician and a railway enthusiast he will have extensive relevant experience to help him represent disabled women from all backgrounds, in many different circumstances and of all ages, of course he will.

18 years ago this was satire. For fuck sake.

Absolutely, it's not that our toilets are some kind of magical superior place far above the broken buckets in the car park men have to use.

No. It's the fact that they're OUR TOILETS, where we are vulnerable. Simply getting into that space is a thrill for some men. The thought of what we're needing to do in close proximity to them is a powerful draw.

Then some men have a range of fetishes such as menophilia that access to sanitary bins allows them to release. I read a 😬 exchange online about the holy grail of finds in a bin - a used towel that is still warm. And the sound of women peeing is another one. Smell may be an element in play.

Then there's the molka epidemic in the far east - sneaky cameras installed in women's loos that men pay to watch.

If they really and truly 'only want to pee ...' then there's nothing stopping them doing it in their own space. The gents'.

That headline should just be "Britain's biggest union allows man to run in female seat". Give it proper sunlight.

All the "trans woman" terminology is obfuscation. I am sure there will be people skimming headlines like that who don't realise it refers to a male.

I'm sick of the deliberately misleading language.

Our branch has put this forward too. We were asked to indicate if we were against the motion and to raise our hand. (Rather than a “those in favour”) of course nobody raised their hand against it including myself. I despair. I’ll see what the outcome is post conference. But expect I’ll be back to help with the wording to tell them to stick their membership up their arses.

I'm in a teaching union. Received an e mail about meeting agenda, one item was challenging the anti trans ruling? Don't they mean the ruling for womens' basic rights?

And the same ruling that ensures the working protections for lesbian and gay people, and for women with trans identities.

Apparently however the act is only supposed to work for trans identified men and anyone else having rights too is <insert drama here>

I thought she was being a bit harsh at first, but now I think Kathleen Stock had a point when she said these people are just thick.

The comments section in the Telegraph article isn't having any of it.

"Where is the self proclaimed woman I wonder. Surely not the portly gentleman? That's just all too 2024"

Also, about half of the people have given up the linguistic contortions and gone back to referring to men cosplaying women as "trans men" and women pretending to be men as "trans women". It's a joy to see the English language being used properly, again.

When I was involved in the organised far left many years ago, we spent a lot of time trying to get motions passed about this or that cause in union branches. We thought that if we succeeded, as we sometimes did, it was evidence that the working masses were slowly coming over to our point of view.

What it actually meant was that the union machinery as a whole was increasingly disassociated from the working masses. None of the activists were really representative of the members, neither us nor the “right wing bureaucratic misleadership” that we thought we were fighting. The people left taking part in the life of the union were either highly motivated ideological people like us, or ambitious people trying to get a cushy job in the TUC or Labour Party.

The low level of engagement with the organisations of civil society is not a problem unique to trade unions, we see it in the historically low election turnouts and in the political parties as well, and it's corrosive to society.

This is literally why I joined the FDA 😆

That Unison bod, I read somewhere has been blind since birth. I suspect life has been no bed of roses. Normally I'd want to be cheering on someone like that. A role model for what's been achieved despite life's shitty hand. But, no, not for this. He should be ashamed. I wouldn't be surprised I'd there are tras at Unison who've encouraged him, maybe even pushed him down this route. I don't want to deny his agency but if there are others behind this I have nothing but contempt for them.

I agree, I think he's probably been manipulated. And they've probably told him he passes, and he has no way of knowing. It's abusive, and I suspect he's latched on to people who seem to care about him, but are actually doing him no favours.

He's wearing very thick glasses so he probably is blind as in legally blind and not completely unable to see.

I'm in Unison because they get things done but I will be writing to them about the importance of women's rights. We will not give up out rights for mens' rights.
It will be interesting to see how they reply.

countrysidedeficit · Yesterday 16:45

All the "trans woman" terminology is obfuscation. I am sure there will be people skimming headlines like that who don't realise it refers to a male.
I'm sick of the deliberately misleading language.

I've just this minute had a comment deleted by the Mail, for pointing that out and the fact that they have no legal requirement to refer to men by female pronouns.

Just what I was thinking. Plus trans activists may be flavour of the month with the union bosses but they are nothing to the membership on the whole.