AIBU to love a "reverse ferret"?

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I've read a lot of posts in this forum talk about organisations or individuals doing a reverse ferret. Often it has a derogatory tone, in comparison to "sees sense".

Given the sheer numbers of those in power captured by genderwoo, I think "reverse ferrets" should be applauded as the way back to normality and sense.

AIBU?

I think it would be nice to see organisations saying 'hands up, we got it wrong before', which they don't tend to do.

The reverse ferret normally is used where the ferret in question pretends it was never going the original way in the first place.

A change of mind with admission, is great e.g. Wes Streeting, pretending you never supported a cause when you loudly did before backtracking and therefore never accepting responsibility, less so.

I'm glad that they are happening, but they are dishonest and self serving.

I've voted YANBU, but I agree with @murasaki . If reverse ferret just means changing your mind, then great. If it means claiming you never had the opposite view in the first place, then that's not on, especially if it's someone in a position of authority.

In a weird way I have marginally more time for the wronguns who are sticking to their guns than for those who only changed their minds when the threat of legal and potential financial consequences appeared over the hill.

I'm glass-half-full about reverse ferreting, but I agree with other posters that it's infuriating when they come out with 'Let me be clear, we have always prioritised the safety of women in single-sex spaces..' when they've spent years doing the opposite😡
The fact that they don't seem bothered about being on record, and recorded, saying exactly what they now claim they never ever said is disturbing.

Facts, even clear-as-the-nose-on-your-face facts, caught on video facts, just don't matter.

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I applaud people like Wes Streeting who apologised and said they got it wrong.

Reverse ferreters are people or companies who pretend or lie about what they were doing originally. I have no time for liars. However I wouldn't berate them either for not doing it sooner.

I'm not sure, I lot of organisation were threatened with lawsuits based around the equality act in regards to transgender people and sex based rights.

Since the Equality Act has been clarified to state that sex related to biological sex those threats are now meaningless and organisations are free to implement what they originally intended.

Agreed. I've said it before but John Boyne's Twitter apology was a masterclass in saying 'I was wrong. I'm sorry'

That, I can respect.

What I can't respect is people or organisations who pretend that their opinion has never changed when it has, and there are receipts to prove it.

I don't.

Oh i don't really have sympathy for them, but I think the reverse ferrets are only afraid of lawsuits and wouldn't have changed their minds on reading facts, so are craven cowardly self interested people. I may totally disagree with the hold the liners, and I do, but the pathetic behaviour of, for example Starmer, has nothing to commend it either. He'd pivot again in a heart beat.

The problem with the likes of Starmer is that as well reverse ferreting he's demonstrated that he's untrustworthy. I am struggling to believe that should the wind change he won't reverse again. It's not that I necessarily want him to apologise, although that would be admirable, but I want to see his working. Why was he there? How did he get from there to here? Then I'd know he could be trusted.

Like the pp said I almost have more time for the fuckwits who still claim to believe this shite. You know where you are with fuckwits! With windsock Starmer all I know is that he goes where the wind blows.

Precisely this.

His reverse ferreting still hasn't gone as far as apologising to Rosie Duffield....

The reverse ferreting is better than sticking to illegal guns, and may be enjoyable. But as others have said, the non weaselly people who apologise and admit they were wrong are much more admirable and trustworthy.

I don’t trust the ferrets not to do another 180 if the wind changes again, to mix metaphors.

My union has today sent out an update as everyone has been asking for one.

No reverse ferreting there just firmly getting splinters in their arses sitting on the fence. Apparently they want clarity before commenting so will wait for the full EHRC guidance.

Because the judgment being written more or less in Peter and Jane simplicity of terms is apparently 'complicated'.

Possibly the government need to employ Mr Tumble to do a programme about it. With songs. Maybe some finger puppets. Interpretive dance.

I'm sorry, not sorry, but these are people who have happily spent the last 15 years shitting on my legal rights. Reverse ferret all you want but I will not forget and I will never forgive.

It really does take some chutzpah from Private Eye to publish that.

I'm happy to forgive as long as there is forward movement. The level of capture was deep, so deep it captured the Tory government as well as the Opposition, nevermind the easy pickings in Luvvie Land.

I suppose I'm glad that normality is being restored.😊

On this issue at least.

I enjoy a reverse ferret, in a schadenfreude sort of way. They give me a chuckle, and it shows you when the wind is changing, so useful in a way.

In terms of genuinely appreciating them, though . . . no. I'd rather a sincere "I was wrong".

It boils my piss a bit, frankly, when those who really went in guns blazing against "the TERFs" suddenly come over all twitchy ferret and start pretending they didn't know or the situation has changed. As if people weren't blue in the face trying to tell them. As if they weren't actively putting their hands in their ears and going "la la la", for YEARS.

They can sod off.

The funny thing about reverse ferreters is that they're trying to save face - but they don't seem to realise their lack of accountability and refusal to apologise, makes them look worse than the ego knock of uttering the words: "I'm sorry, I was wrong".

"I'm sorry, I was wrong". Which ought to be followed with "I owe you an apology."