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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
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CanIHaveALattePlease · 30/04/2025 21:11

I received their email this morning and immediately deleted the app on my phone and iPad. Shame because I love SuperMilk but nah.

Dominoodles · 30/04/2025 21:18

PatsFruitCake · 29/04/2025 21:38

Why don't they put this much effort into sharing info about the challenges that disabled people face (or any other protected characteristic for that matter)? Why is it always gender identity FFS?

Squeaky wheel gets the grease, I'm afraid. This particular group screams loudest about how hard done by they are, so they take attention from causes that actually need support.

NoBinturongsHereMate · 30/04/2025 22:06

Minimili · 30/04/2025 05:12

I stopped using lush about a year ago and I love a bath bomb or bubble bar so I use this company now Ascent bath and body

The bath bombs are cheaper but far better quality and the new bubble bars smell gorgeous. I get a bag of mini bath bombs and just one of them is as strong as a full size lush bath bomb.
I buy from them every month so I have a loyal customer code for 10% off, it’s ASCENTIVES if you do feel like placing an order 🙂.

They also have a rewards points scheme which I really appreciate, it niggled at me that lush preach at you but do nothing to reward loyalty.

Some nice looking things. The ingredients are considerably better than Lush's were last time I looked.

NitroNine · 01/05/2025 02:54

I just made the terrible mistake of trying to read the leaflet.

What is this “UK Census” of which they speak? Could they perhaps mean the England & Wales Census? So strange they make no mention of the ONS having had to admit the stats were unreliable & inflated but instead try to hint at poor brave trans people being so scared about their safety that vast swathes of said population were not recorded.

Equally, I’m sure they just forgot to mention that the main driver for the burning of the contents of the library of the Sexual Sciences Institute was antisemitism. And it clearly wasn’t at all deliberate they gave the impression that there was a coherent policy on the trans population in Nazi Germany.

On the plus side, I suppose they did manage to refrain from actually naming poor Elagabalus as trans AND used the qualifier he was “probably” trans.

I can go no further, lest the stupidity is catching…

Merrymouse · 01/05/2025 07:11

They talk about the NHS rejecting the wider medical consensus.

That is just flat out wrong and potentially dangerous.

potionsmistress · 01/05/2025 07:45

Yet another company that blames a single employee or a single store instead of taking accountability. Lush go even further by saying take the content up with the organisation who wrote the leaflet, as if they were not the ones who approved it and then went to produce 100000 copies.

IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 01/05/2025 07:45

This is so full of 'we're the nice, kind, caring people' and 'those who disagree with us are hateful and nasty'.

It's tremendous gaslighting, when you consider that they are the ones demanding the right for children to have their hormones messed up and their puberty destroyed, often left infertile and with wholly avoidable serious health issues as a direct result.

If you block a child's natural puberty for their sex, it doesn't magically switch it to the puberty of the opposite sex; just like if you chop off a healthy arm, it doesn't grow back as a leg - it's just gone completely.

They claim that most children know what 'gender' they are from the age of 4. More blatant lies: plenty of 4yos want to be cats, dinosaurs, unicorns, Thomas the Tank Engine or whatever; and a lot of them genuinely believe that, if they want it enough, it becomes the truth.

It's downright abusive to seek to put so much responsibility on to such a young child, and to give them so much agency. The big difference with 'non-trans' children is that, whatever they know or think they are, it doesn't change or destroy material fact from happening naturally until they are old enough to appreciate it.

They also push the fallacy that biological men can have HRT, which is demonstrably false. The 'R' stands for 'replacement' - you obviously cannot replace something that was never meant to be there in the first place. It's the equivalent of (actual) women going to their GPs and being given 'replacement testicle surgery' when it's discovered that theirs are somehow missing!!!

Their booklet contained the page where they describe their trans utopia and later discover 'sadly it was all a dream' (what an original literary device); but to me, I thought the rest of the booklet read like a big fairy tale dream, where if you wish hard enough, it will come true. Et in trans Arcadia ego.

It all just comes from an automatic assumption that they are the central characters in this, and that they are entitled to whatever they want and demand as a given. Anybody who doesn't bow down and give them everything they feel entitled to is a 'hater' - and thus gets added to their list to bump up the massive perceived 'hate crimes' index that they are supposedly intolerably suffering from.

It's like saying that Tesco are guilty of a hate crime by refusing to let you take away food that you don't have the money to buy - however hungry you are or however much you want it.

DuesToTheDirt · 01/05/2025 08:09

Completely out of order.
a) because it was in party bags for 7 year olds and discusses trans issues and suicide
b) because it was in party bags for 7 year olds and discusses any viewpoint on anything at all (could have been animal rights, disabled people, public transport, still inappropriate)
c) because it was a unrequested political statement, regardless of the recipients being 7. I'd feel the same if I got the leaflet in with my shopping.

What planet are they on?

Merrymouse · 01/05/2025 09:19

NitroNine · 01/05/2025 02:54

I just made the terrible mistake of trying to read the leaflet.

What is this “UK Census” of which they speak? Could they perhaps mean the England & Wales Census? So strange they make no mention of the ONS having had to admit the stats were unreliable & inflated but instead try to hint at poor brave trans people being so scared about their safety that vast swathes of said population were not recorded.

Equally, I’m sure they just forgot to mention that the main driver for the burning of the contents of the library of the Sexual Sciences Institute was antisemitism. And it clearly wasn’t at all deliberate they gave the impression that there was a coherent policy on the trans population in Nazi Germany.

On the plus side, I suppose they did manage to refrain from actually naming poor Elagabalus as trans AND used the qualifier he was “probably” trans.

I can go no further, lest the stupidity is catching…

I wonder if the comments about the NHS rejecting the wider medical consensus are libellous?

NoBinturongsHereMate · 01/05/2025 14:50

Libel of organisations isn't quite the same as of individuals. I think the NHS would have to show a significant financial loss, rather than merely defamation, to be able to bring a case.

And they'd not want to be seen using NHS funds on suing private, non-medical businesses.

Merrymouse · 01/05/2025 17:16

NoBinturongsHereMate · 01/05/2025 14:50

Libel of organisations isn't quite the same as of individuals. I think the NHS would have to show a significant financial loss, rather than merely defamation, to be able to bring a case.

And they'd not want to be seen using NHS funds on suing private, non-medical businesses.

Going off at a tangent, the online safety act seems to limit ‘false communication’ . Obviously this isn’t online - but there has been a lot of false communication on this issue, some harmful e.g. re suicide statistics.

But is anyone ever prosecuted?

NoBinturongsHereMate · 01/05/2025 20:12

Interesting question. I tend to forget about that Act, but yes - massive amounts of false communication.

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