Prominent transphobe found guilty of multiple counts of child sexual abuse across a 20 year period.

[ButterflyHatched]

I'm surprised this hasn't been mentioned at all - I tried to find a thread covering this verdict and got no returns.

A prominent transphobe, Nicola Murray, has been found guilty of repeated counts of child sexual abuse against four children across a 20 year period in West Lothian and Perthshire.

Bloody hell. Absolutely disgusting crimes when committed by anyone, but coming from a well known domestic abuse activist who of all people should have known better is particularly horrifying. I hope this doesn't end up harming Brodie's Trust too badly as an organisation and the important work that they do for survivors of domestic abuse - to discover your founder is responsible for such evil acts has got to be devastating.

From the vile behaviours described in the article, including the use of transphobic slurs against a child for daring to style their hair after their favourite pop star, she appears to have been completely deranged and consumed by her hatred of the differences exhibited by those poor children. Looks like she never succeeded in overcoming her hatred for trans people, which it explains why it spilled out into and marred her activism.

It must have taken immense courage for those young people to speak up about her abusive behaviour, but thankfully it seems this is one of the rare occasions where victims are believed and taken seriously when coming forward.

Another:

And another:

Another:

This.

And finally (because I've only posted around 10% of what I have of trans paedophiles and I don't want to hog up the thread)

I was not going to let a thread stand unchallenged when there are a disproportionate amount of paedophiles in the femphobe/MRA/trans community, much higher per capita than the general community.

PS Just to mention that the first person I posted, high profile Stephen Ireland, 41, co-founder of Pride in Surrey, is being charged with 35 child sex offences.

What a failure. Poor kids.

Just one more case where someone can be right about some things and wrong about everything else others. Trump

Being Gender Critical isn’t any form of guarantee of character. No that’s why safeguarding applies to everyone, no sacred castes.

Women are far less likely to abuse, but we still follow safeguarding measures. That’s the point.

This.

Fuck off with your double standards and false equivalency, Butters.

It's not one out, one in. She's a woman whatever she does; you never will be, whatever you do.

OP is being entirely disingenuous because the main thrust of their post seems to be that this woman held gender critical views, and that is somehow linked to her offending against these children.
What she did was truly, truly awful. No child should experience that. The fact she doesn’t believe that men can become women is neither here nor there.
I wonder if OP was similarly outraged by prominent trans campaigner Stephen Ireland being prosecuted for the rape of a child? Or the many, many instances of trans identifying adults having sexually assaulted women or children?

I just read the article and was coming back to say this myalternate.

How dare what happened to these children be shoehorned into someone's political agenda:

"she appears to have been completely deranged and consumed by her hatred of the differences exhibited by those poor children. Looks like she never succeeded in overcoming her hatred for trans people, which it explains why it spilled out into and marred her activism."

I don't think I need to point out that there was no 'differences' even mentioned. But still the OP has centred their political agenda in these children's horror.

Indeed, this atrocious woman probably believes (knows) the world is not flat. Should we extrapolate from that that anyone believing in a spherical (ellipsoid) earth is more likely to be a domestic abuser, too?

Totally agree.

The OP's attempt to make this a trans issue when it absolutely is not is beneath contempt. Pathetic.

Absolutely spot on.
so many “prominent” trans activist have been shown to be vile sax offenders…. But you never hear then described as “consummate misogynist ………….”…and it shows more about the OP and their relationship with reality TBH.

I think this is behind OP's viewpoint;In September, Murray posted a message on social media on behalf of Brodie’s Trust to say that the charity would no longer refer women to the Edinburgh Rape Crisis Center, on account of its commitment to transgender orthodoxy. “We cannot in all conscience send vulnerable women to the service in its current state,” Murray wrote. “We are a women-only service run by women for women and will not be intimated into changing our stance on this matter.”Two months later, Murray was surprised to be visited by Police Scotland in connection with her tweet. They said that while she hadn’t committed any crime or even been hateful: “We need to speak to you to ascertain what your thinking was behind making your statement.”www.nationalreview.com/corner/scottish-woman-visited-by-police-for-posting-her-charitys-policy/

Leveraging abuse to suit your own misogynist aims OP.

Seems a common TRA trope.

But in case you haven't noticed, feminists aren't the ones saying that safeguarding is offensive.

Safeguarding isn't personal and is a very blunt tool. No category of human is beyond suspicion. Whilst over 90% sexual / violent crimes are committed by men - hence the point of single sex provisions - that quite obviously still leaves some women.

Opened this wondering which prominent woman this was. I’ve never heard of this person.

So just another man, trying to slur and shame us for someone completely unconnected with us.

Had hoped this thread would be deleted, hence reporting it, but maybe it is better left standing after all so that anyone wandering by can see that tactics like that of OP just won’t wash any more.

On reddit yesterday there were many posts about Murray and there developed a determined undertaking to link all GC activists to her and to spread the story far and wide.

I see the OP is doing their master's bidding.

Idiot.

I thought child safeguarding was a transphobic dog whistle?

This woman is scum.

She appears to have abused all sorts of different children and likely used whatever insults seemed most likely to hurt each individual child. Hence the use of transphobic slurs and almost certainly other prejudiced language.

Safeguarding applies to EVERYONE. I would be very surprised if there were not warning signs that were missed here as there usually are in such cases. The organisation (ideally with external eyes) should investigate what could have been done differently.

None of this means she was wrong about sex being immutable. She is probably right about all sorts of other things as well (the earth being round for example) but that doesn't mean she is any less despicable.

Being gender critical is a belief in sex being more important in most cases than self-identified gender. GC people can be communists, liberals, centrists, right wingers or indeed fascists. They can be atheist or highly religious. They can hold very different views on issues like abortion and women's place in society. They are often campaigning for very different things.

Most people on this board are GC, left leaning feminists and it seems Murray would probably have claimed to be such as well. No one is above scrutiny and I hope she is brought to justice swiftly. This sort of case is very unusual in this demographic but seems to be less unusual in TRA circles. GC women are also quickly denouncing her whereas TRA circles tend to circle the bandwagon as we saw with Amy Challenor.

I was not going to let a thread stand unchallenged when there are a disproportionate amount of paedophiles in the femphobe/MRA/trans community, much higher per capita than the general community.

Quite. And you would think that butterfly would've had enough of being proved wrong over the years on here.

I know The Supreme Court ruling has enraged transactivists everywhere. And they must know that expressing their rage will change absolutely nothing.

So it's my opinion that they just enjoy it.

Which, in a neat full circle, is pretty much why women went to the Supreme Court in the first place.

It's rage for the sake of it. It's not going to change a thing.

These men still won't be allowed to women's spaces, only now, more people will understand why.

This is awful- keeping the victims and families involved in my thoughts.

I’m not GC and passionate about trans rights, and I do think people rushing on here saying ‘she wasn’t transphobic!!! There’s no evidence of that!!!!’ says a LOT about who people on here choose to champion and where their focus is. Transphobia was literally an element of her abuse, and she was also GC. That’s a fact. We shouldn’t be silenced into not mentioning that by people who find it uncomfortable (whilst they happily share articles of LGBTQ+ people who have done vile things for their own agenda).

Having said that, I am heavily against taking a single member of a group who has done bad things and using that to paint an entire group as predatory.

This is a gay man with a male victim- what point are you trying to prove here? That gay men are pedos? It’s 2025, get a bloody grip.

I see this thread backfired spectacularly on @ButterflyHatched . Hardly anyone has even heard of this so-called "prominent" gender critical woman, and everyone has condemned the child abuse without hesitation.

The OP's giddy delight at finding a case to shame gender critical women with, meanwhile, has backfired, as women can post dozens of examples of child abuse by trans people - many of them also arguably trans activists. Sadly, the examples just keep coming, proving which community has a real problem with child abuse. (Hint: it's not gender critical women.)

Anyone who has spent five minutes in this space knows that the women here do care about child abuse - including the abuse of 'trans' children. It's why every Let Women Speak involves the rallying cry "Transitioning children is profound abuse". Why the Cass Review was such a big deal, and the books of Juno Dawson are so disliked, and why there has been outrage for years about the plight of Jazz Jennings, Desmond the nine year old drag queen, and other 'trans kids'. Why do people think we hate Mermaids so much?

Of course, @ButterflyHatched has been on this board for a while, and is just being disingenuous. Because this poster is trans and disagrees that child transition is child abuse. This is nothing but a desperate attempt at a DARVO, by a poster whose own cognitive dissonance is getting to them. It's pathetic.