Get the violins out - Stonewall is "in crisis"

[IwantToRetire]

Our biggest LGBT charity is in crisis. Are we just going to let it collapse? LGBT people need armour; an organisation like Stonewall to act as a first line of defence

Stonewall, Britain’s largest LGBT organisation, is in crisis. It’s plummeting financially, with rounds of redundancies as funding cuts hit. And its credibility and influence is plunging amid a national and global backlash against LGBT rights.

This matters. If someone asked you to name the first LGBT organisation that comes to mind, I would bet my cat you’d say Stonewall. Since it was founded more than 35 years ago, the charity has become entwined in our country’s psyche, Parliament, schools, sporting and business sectors. But for how much longer?

However you feel about Stonewall, we need a conversation about the state of the biggest charity defending LGBT people. And we need to ask ourselves a question as the opponents of all kinds of human rights lie in wait: are we just going to let it die?
...
To highlight one recent example of Stonewall’s seemingly waning influence, I asked the Government several times recently whether it has consulted with Stonewall over a proposed ban on conversion therapy since taking office. A spokesperson from the Cabinet Office declined to confirm whether it has even had any meetings with the charity about it, instead offering vaguely: “We will engage further with a broad range of stakeholders.” I asked Stonewall three times, but they did not provide a response.

Perhaps both sides are being coy or don’t want the public to know that they’ve met. But either way, this is as bizarre as it is concerning. Stonewall was once the charity that lobbied every MP in the country to help pass the same-sex marriage law in 2013. Now, it is unclear whether they’ve even had a meeting with the new Government over the psychological torture of LGBT people
...
Should it die, many will dance on Stonewall’s grave. But then many would happily see the rights of LGBT people revoked too – thereby exposing how much a strong, influential organisation for this community is still needed.

If you think it should return to only representing lesbian, bisexual and gay people, then you’re ignoring not only the plight of trans people but also how intertwined all these rights are and how many government’s incarcerate people for laws that oppress every letter in the acronym – or pass laws like the Equality Act that protect everyone (until that is chipped away).
...

Complete article at https://inews.co.uk/opinion/biggest-lgbt-charity-crisis-stonewall-3645337
Can also be read in full at https://archive.is/yGTYs

(If LGB people can set up their own Alliance, why cant trans people do the same?)

this is fascinating. Many huge organisations have left, but many remain:

https://sex-matters.org/about-us/what-we-are-up-against/keeping-track-of-stonewall/

Mine too.

This. The capture and exploitation of the NHS has been absolutely scandalous. Just look at the EDI person in Fife in the Sandy Peggie case. Not qualified in any way shape or form, yet paid more than most HCPs to give terrible advice. All the money wasted on rainbow tat and trans ideology training. They could have been running first aid courses for parents or something more useful with that money.

Oh. My. God. The cuteness.

Now is the time for real investigative journalism to come forward. It’s one of the biggest scandals of our time!

I'm in two minds about this because I really think that this is the time for conciliation and compromise and without an organisation to represent the interests of transgender people then that is pretty much impossible.

Well, they could set one up? Just like the Lesbian & gay activists, such as Simon Fanshawe did back in the day, and just as those absolute heroes Kate Jackson and Bev Harris did more recently with the LGB Alliance.

But the TRAs would rather make signs saying "Burn the witch", punch and physically intimidate women, and pee on statues of great women than actually do some hard work.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned this-
https://www.simon-edge.com/the-end-of-the-world-is-flat

I don't see why they need anyone to represent them.
Like most people I just treat them as people. I have known a few and in fact employed two trans men in my business and my podiastrist is also a trans woman. I treat them like anyone else so why do they need representing?
It's when they got representation from the likes of Stonewall that all their troubles started in my view culminating in p1331ng on the statues of venerated people.

a significant issue going forward is that there’s a number of very prominent head teachers and other school leaders, as well as teacher training lecturers/ professors etc who are extremely pro trans ideology (obviously linked to captured universities) and have made a specific living from being so.

there was a huge rise in edutwitter lovies getting book deals and massaging each others egos. Running school social media accounts that supposedly demonstrated excellent practice in inclusion generally, especially trans. Joining forces to hold online training and conferences etc, especially after the pandemic. doing PHDs in inclusive practice which bizarrely mashed SEND and lgbtq inclusion together.

their Twitter feeds are still demonstrating all of this. The grift has been huge. (It’s increasingly switching to SEND/ autism etc for obvious reasons.)

see: The tattooed head teacher for example.

Moffat is obviously one of these in the mix.

They are in crisis the money is running out. Stonewall fought for gay rights and win . That war was over and no more cash so trans movement was born . More institutions paid for their‘guidance’ and they became the militant force which will be its downfall. Sad but greed has driven them not the needs of the people.

Sorry @LuckyAnt , this was meant to be a response to you.

Do you hear that silence? That's my violin playing.

Transgender people are discriminated against and targeted for being transgender though. I think that every group who is marginalised should have people to speak on their behalf and lobby for their interests.

They'll know from my email that donations made around now are likely to be from us

Which ones? The 13-year-old girls who object to being sexualised and want to opt out of womanhood? Or the middle-aged men who have a sexual fetish and want to wear fishnets to work? Or the autistic children who feel they don't belong anywhere, and are told that transitioning is the solution?

I certainly don't think the second cohort need any representation.

And for the other two, identifying as trans is a solution to two entirely different problems.

💯

Well, maybe they should, but then an organisation that insists there's no difference between transwomen and women isn't likely to act in trans people's best interests, or anyone else's for that matter.

And any organisation who pushes for puberty blockers and trans ideology towards children poses a serious safeguarding concern. I haven't seen any of the trans charities or any individual trans person or ally give support to the Cass report. Until they agree to keep away from children how can they be considered as a worthy cause.

Back in the dark ages when it cared about lesbians I helped fundraise. Now thank God for the LGBA.

I defer to Sgt Major Williams.

Stonewall dropped the "I" after lobbying by people with DSDs. The word "Intersex" is not used scientifically any more & those with DSDs find it offensive as they are all either male with a DSD or female with a DSD. Intersex does not exist in humans.

Great post, would recommend.

I think first they need to define properly the transgender people they are representing. I can definitely see a case to support those who suffer severe dysphoria. This charity would need though to fully support the CASS review and to genuinely work in trans people's best interests rather than in the interests of those who wish to exploit those suffering the dysphoria for their own ends.

There are those who seek to transition minors because they don't like them being gay (see the founder of Mermaids). There are those who seek to transition minors because they have a sexual preference for prepubescent boys (thankfully we have stopped puberty blockers for teenagers). There are those who seek to transition people because they create a lifelong income stream for the drugs and hormone treatments required. Any trans charity is going to need to be acting in a way which only seeks to fully support those with dysphoria even if it means talking therapies (currently Stonewall wants to stop those under the misdirection of calling it conversion therapy when some are dysphoric due to sexual abuse and trauma).

So with all the above in mind, yes there is a space for a charity to support trans people but it's going to have to turn its back on the AGP males and predatory men.

It’s scary to see that list and how many organisations were influenced by Stonewall. I hope it’s torn down brick by brick and the leadership sued. Terrible how far removed they became from their roots.

I was thinking the same thing. It’s time for some answers and I hope some journalists take this up and expose how this was allowed.