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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

In which the Orkney News* goes beyond offensive and enters the territory of deranged **MNHQ corrected Times to News as OP had made an error**

75 replies

ArabellaScott · 23/04/2025 19:00

https://theorkneynews.scot/2025/04/22/first-they-came-for/

Content warning: the most offensive, garbled, incoherent, bullshit I've read in a while. Illustrated with pictures from Buchenwald.

The Orkney Times equates the Supreme Court judgement with fascism.

'On Monday, 21 April, The Orkney News, reported on the demonstration which had taken place the day before where those concerned about the Supreme Court judgment and the impact it will have on Transgender issues met together in Kirkwall. It should come as no surprise to anyone paying attention to the drift into Fascism in the USA that Trans people are feeling very vulnerable, not just in the States, but here too. Reading many of the comments from those who supported the successful appeal to the Supreme Court, they illustrate the divisive nature of the discussions around gender and identity in Scotland. This is the intolerance which sows the seeds of fascism.'

Who the fuck thinks this is okay?

First they came for….

First they came for the CommunistsAnd I did not speak outBecause I was not a CommunistThen they came for the SocialistsAnd I did not speak outBecause I was not a SocialistThen they came for the tra…

https://theorkneynews.scot/2025/04/22/first-they-came-for/

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SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 23/04/2025 19:38

Greyskybluesky · 23/04/2025 19:31

I'd class using images of starving and dying Jews as a hate crime, personally.

They’re images of pink triangle, LGBT prisoners.

https://slate.com/human-interest/2015/01/remembering-the-gay-victims-of-the-holocaust.html

KatyaKabanova · 23/04/2025 19:39

Greyskybluesky · 23/04/2025 19:29

@ArabellaScott I wonder if CST could advise? Even if it's not strictly their remit they might know what to do. And they definitely should be made aware of it.

https://cst.org.uk/about-cst

That's a good shout.

ArabellaScott · 23/04/2025 19:39

Greyskybluesky · 23/04/2025 19:36

I assume you've got all the screenshots/archives @ArabellaScott ?

Edited to add: I meant just in case this were to suddenly disappear, nothing to see here

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archived.

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Greyskybluesky · 23/04/2025 19:40

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 23/04/2025 19:38

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Oh great, well at least they're being historically accurate then, eh?

For fuck's sake

KatyaKabanova · 23/04/2025 19:40

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 23/04/2025 19:38

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Same thing, poor souls. Tortured and enslaved because they didn't fit in with the idea of the Ubermensch. Very offensive to equate with the current situation.

ArabellaScott · 23/04/2025 19:41

The Holocaust was an abomination. It isn't a useful fucking illustration of anything. It is itself.

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KatyaKabanova · 23/04/2025 19:42

ArabellaScott · 23/04/2025 19:41

The Holocaust was an abomination. It isn't a useful fucking illustration of anything. It is itself.

This ⬆️

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 23/04/2025 19:42

Greyskybluesky · 23/04/2025 19:40

Oh great, well at least they're being historically accurate then, eh?

For fuck's sake

Just trying to save people some embarrassment when doing a complaint.

ArabellaScott · 23/04/2025 19:42

Sorry, I'm not coherent. This has really upset me.

I find this calling women who advocate for women's rights fascists just beyond the pale. How dare they. It's throwing women, gay people, all the victims of the Holocaust on a bonfire to warm their self righteous hands.

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SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 23/04/2025 19:43

KatyaKabanova · 23/04/2025 19:40

Same thing, poor souls. Tortured and enslaved because they didn't fit in with the idea of the Ubermensch. Very offensive to equate with the current situation.

Agree. It’s offensive because it’s hyperbolic not because they’re appropriating Jewish victims when the victims pictured were LGBT.

HesSoBadHesGood · 23/04/2025 19:44

AgnesX · 23/04/2025 19:06

Who'd have thunk that the Northern Isles were a hotbed of transactivism 🙄

Someone needs to be reined in, that's dreadful.

Wasn't the Satanic Panic in Orkney? But people can fall for fads/cults/false beliefs anywhere

KatyaKabanova · 23/04/2025 19:45

So true, @ArabellaScott . The insensitivity, arrogance and entitlement are off the scale.
Imagine using images of an act of despicable evil intent to further your selfish personal ends.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 23/04/2025 19:45

ArabellaScott · 23/04/2025 19:42

Sorry, I'm not coherent. This has really upset me.

I find this calling women who advocate for women's rights fascists just beyond the pale. How dare they. It's throwing women, gay people, all the victims of the Holocaust on a bonfire to warm their self righteous hands.

They didn’t quite call anyone a fascist. They are doomsaying it’s “sowing the seeds of fascism”

It’s better to complain about hyperbole without using it yourself.

Greyskybluesky · 23/04/2025 19:45

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 23/04/2025 19:42

Just trying to save people some embarrassment when doing a complaint.

Sorry? You think you're the first person to know alllll about the pink triangle and Buchenwald and have come here to educate us? Seriously?

The article you linked to talks only of gay people. Where's the transgender relevance?

lechiffre55 · 23/04/2025 19:46

Ladies have you no sympathy?
Can not you imagine being the most virtous person on one of the most far Northerly Scottish islands? There's only about 22 thousand people spread out across those islands. A truely oppressive lack of people to acknowledge your widely encompassing saintly virtues. Surely a hate crime organised by American Evanglicist funded TERFs the world over to deprive you of the attention, adoration, and adulation you deserve.
Just imagine being "The Only Gay In The Village", and not enough people in the village with the spare time and inclination to listen to the Illiad of your herculean oppressions and admire your new rainbow furry buttplug tail poking out from your latex bodysuit. How horrifying life can be when no one wants to hear your intersectional lecures on queers for Palestine.
Clearly the author of that piece has had to summon every ounce of their tolerance and love to compare The Supreme Court to the very worst of Nazi atrocities. The Arcadian Shoah is upon us!

Being woke in a harsh environment far from the maddening crowds must be very lonely. I doubt many locals care to indulge it. You gotta take that narcissistic supply from wherever you can find it, beggars can't be choosers.
Even an idiot can learn to use the internet. In other news water is wet.

HelenaWaiting · 23/04/2025 19:50

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 23/04/2025 19:38

Why? Buchenwald is where they sent the pink triangle, LGBT, prisoners. So while its hyperbole to compare to the Holocaust, they at least got the right death camp relevant to LGBT.

Buchenwald housed Jews, Poles, and other Slavs, the mentally ill, and physically disabled, political prisoners, Roma, Freemasons, and prisoners of war. There were also ordinary criminals and those perceived as sexual deviants by the Nazi regime. It was by no means exclusively or even majorly an LGBT camp, nor was it the only camp LGBT prisoners were sent to. To pretend otherwise is dishonest.

DeanElderberry · 23/04/2025 19:50

Homosexuals. The Nazis didn't have an issue with 'trans' just with same-sex attracted people. And mainly with men, at that.

AcquadiP · 23/04/2025 19:56

Any reference to the horrors of WW2 in this context is completely inappropriate and absolutely gross. My Nana's kid brother was a Japanese POW. He survived liberation but died (aged 26) a couple of years later - as did thousands of other British former Japanese POWs - due to the effects of starvation, random vicious beatings and arduous forced labour. This article makes my blood boil.

SerafinasGoose · 23/04/2025 19:56

My jaw clanged.

And like most people here I'm hardened over long years of this shit, so that is an extreme rarity with me.

What the FUCK were they thinking?

Theeyeballsinthesky · 23/04/2025 19:59

I wonder if this is a one person band as in hopefully this is only one person with this level of bat shit

Oompao · 23/04/2025 20:02

Theeyeballsinthesky · 23/04/2025 19:59

I wonder if this is a one person band as in hopefully this is only one person with this level of bat shit

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it basically is

dubaichocolate · 23/04/2025 20:10

I can’t get find it now but Malcolm Clark did a thread on X about there being a fair number of cross-dressing Nazis.

Albless · 23/04/2025 20:28

Bloody Hell! That is horrific!

And yes to pp - the Wee Frees know what men and women are. The Church of Scotland, on the other hand, not so much.

NecessaryScene · 23/04/2025 20:44

Buchenwald is where they sent the pink triangle, LGBT, prisoners. So while its hyperbole to compare to the Holocaust, they at least got the right death camp relevant to LGBT.

Just want to call out the forced T teaming here - this makes as much sense as saying Auschwitz is where they sent the JT prisoners, and is just as distasteful.

Obviously the glomming onto LGB isn't primarily due to this, but the chance for the T to glom onto WWII atrocities they were never targetted for is too juicy to pass up. Victimhood is a currency.

PriOn1 · 23/04/2025 20:58

HesSoBadHesGood · 23/04/2025 19:44

Wasn't the Satanic Panic in Orkney? But people can fall for fads/cults/false beliefs anywhere

Yes it was. I think that beautiful, remote places sometimes attract communities of those who want alternative lifestyles.