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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Anyone else also tired of the protests trying to focus only on toilets?

82 replies

NextRinny · 20/04/2025 15:52

Bring on the talks of sports, prisons, rape centres, refuges and hospital wards. With focus on those providing care as well as receiving it, I say.

You can't have one without all the others.

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WorriedRelative · 21/04/2025 16:29

Absolutely, when discussing it I say "it isn't really about toilets" and start talking about prisons/intimate searches/hospital wards/chaperoning youth camps etc.

The other point that can be persuasive to avoid being shut down by the be kind brigade as "a bigot terf" is asking how a transwoman will get appropriate prostate screening or transman their smear test if there is no appropriate recording of biological sex at birth.

SternJoyousBee · 21/04/2025 16:38

WorriedRelative · 21/04/2025 16:29

Absolutely, when discussing it I say "it isn't really about toilets" and start talking about prisons/intimate searches/hospital wards/chaperoning youth camps etc.

The other point that can be persuasive to avoid being shut down by the be kind brigade as "a bigot terf" is asking how a transwoman will get appropriate prostate screening or transman their smear test if there is no appropriate recording of biological sex at birth.

Oh little Stephen and Fred were both on LBC about this when the Sullivan Review was published. Apparently they are grown adults and can take responsibility for their own health and have fabulous relationships with the staff at their GP surgeries so there is no problem 🙄

cavalier · 21/04/2025 18:04

SternJoyousBee · 21/04/2025 00:01

You cannot be a woman in the loo but a man when ur comes to a changing room or hospital ward. You are either a woman or you are not. And transwomen are absolutely not women

I agree

cavalier · 21/04/2025 18:16

I have to say that it’s a very good point OP said about girls at school !
my god … isn’t it sensitive enough age for all teens and when girls start their periods .. having boys strolling into their toilet rooms is just outrageous. I would have been very disturbed about this as would all my schools “female biological “ friend …
This debate must never lose its heat … keep going fellow biological females … we must always remember the suffragettes and what they died for … I’m not a dramatic speaker either but this has got my fears ground so much … I respect that trans people want to be heard but daubing paint and defacing the statues of the suffragettes movement is doing a disservice to you all quite frankly.
yes dress up and express how you wish … but please know boundaries in life is what keeps us all safe including yourselves !! We would never stand by and watch a trans man or lady feel threatened by anyone who is a bigot …Just please keep away from our “safe spaces “ and accept the fine line that is there for preventing those who want to exploit our safe spaces for sinister reasons … which I will add is not the majority of the trans community.but the threat is there and real

SternJoyousBee · 21/04/2025 18:35

There are girls self excluding from using school toilets in some Scottish schools where mixed sex facilties have been provided. It’s appalling to treat young girls this way

Arran2024 · 21/04/2025 18:36

SternJoyousBee · 21/04/2025 18:35

There are girls self excluding from using school toilets in some Scottish schools where mixed sex facilties have been provided. It’s appalling to treat young girls this way

I read that they are often going to nearly supermarkets instead!

SternJoyousBee · 21/04/2025 19:32

Yes I have read same. I think there are MSPs who try and raise these issues in parliament and get dismissed.

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