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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Scientists at Porton Down don't believe in biological sex!

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Kucinghitam · 22/03/2025 06:14

Article in the Times. Sorry I don't have a share token, only an archive link.

https://archive.is/5bCAD

As a scientist at Porton Down developing technology to secure Britain’s defences, Peter Wilkins never imagined he would be considered a threat because of a belief in biology.
But when he stated his gender-critical views and support for the concept of immutable sex, Wilkins was reported for his “ideology” and labelled by colleagues as transphobic, “sad and pathetic” and “a rubbish employee”.
An employment tribunal has found there was a “clear hostile animus” towards gender-critical beliefs at the top-secret Defence Science and Technology Laboratory (DSTL). It found that an intimidating atmosphere resulted in the harassment and discrimination of Wilkins, 43, who was forced to leave as a result.

What with the Nature, Cell, so many biology learned societies, (not even including "playing-at-being-science" magazines like New Scientist and SciAm) being captured, and now this, I really am beginning to believe that this ideology is a brain-eating mind virus.

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Grammarnut · 26/09/2025 13:01

Porton Down and the entire Civil Service would appear to believe in post-humanism.

Elephant2981 · 26/09/2025 13:23

Kucinghitam · 26/09/2025 11:00

Goodness. They really are True Believers then!

No.

They just want to exhaust the legal process, so that when they do have to make changes, they can blame the "transphobe" and the "transphobic" legal system that made them do it - "we want to let you chaps use the ladies' loo, but that nasty man and that mean judge say we can't".

LeftieRightsHoarder · 26/09/2025 15:12

minnienono · 22/03/2025 10:52

All depends on what he was doing. I believe in biological sex but I also believe in treating people with dignity and respect, if people wish to be known by a different name and be called a different pronoun it doesn’t hurt me to respect their wishes. You cannot become the opposite sex to the one you were born but you can present as the opposite gender at work, colleagues should respect this and larger work places should have policies and facilities in place eg a gender neutral toilet for them to use so nobody else is uncomfortable, for small workplaces like mine just use the disabled loo!

Lying is deeply offensive to me, as it is to many people. That includes pretending people can change sex. Those people have the right to live as they wish, in safety, but not to force others to collude with the pretence.

We should have the right to refuse to be forced to lie. But it’s a right that many people have to give up, because they would lose their jobs or suffer serious harassment if they did refuse to lie.

What a disgrace that so many managements trample on employees’ human rights like this.

SlackJawedDisbeliefXY · 26/09/2025 15:57

You'd have thought that scientists whose work involved
'highly secretive, armed-guard research facilities focused on chemical and biological defence, including work on dangerous pathogens like Ebola and the Novichok nerve agent, and the safe disposal of chemical weapons'
would have more pressing things to deal with and have a tighter grip on reality

If this is the sort of workforce they have, hidden behind a wall of secrecy, then I would suggest that the whole place needs and enhanced security review pretty quickly

JellySaurus · 26/09/2025 16:46

Lying is also dangerous. If it’s OK to lie when talking to colleagues it becomes OK to falsify data when talking to colleagues. If it’s OK to falsify data about a colleague, it becomes OK to falsify data about other things. Honesty and integrity are essential in both interpersonal relations and in science.

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