Green Councillor proposes no funding for women's that operate under the SSE of the EA

[IwantToRetire]

It seems almost inevitable that someone from the Green Party would propose this.

But in a way it is good as it might put in the public sphere whether in fact this has been the existing practice of funders in Scotland.

SCOTTISH Greens Councillor Alex Staniforth has tabled a motion in next week’s City Council meeting asking for contracts with services such as Edinburgh Women’s Aid to be reconsidered.

This comes following Edinburgh Women’s Aid’s recently updated position statement, in which they state they “lawfully exclude transgender women and males who have transitioned to non-binary”.
Councillor Staniforth references the council’s position on LGBTQ+ equality, which asserts that Edinburgh is “an inclusive and welcoming city to LGBTQ+ people”.

Whilst the decision of the domestic abuse charity has been applauded by women’s rights movements in the city, it has been widely condemned by trans rights organisations and goes against the values of its umbrella organisation.

The motion tabled by Councillor Staniforth states that the council: “Notes that Edinburgh council has repeatedly reasserted that Edinburgh is an inclusive and welcoming city to LGBTQ+ people, and that this must include supporting people facing violence and abuse.

“Therefore resolves that Edinburgh council shall review its future SLAs and contracts with service providers offering support to people facing domestic abuse and sexual violence to make it clear that we expect services to be fully trans inclusive, in line with our position on LGBTQ+ equality, but always accepting that they must act within the law.
“Resolves that the leader of the council should write to Edinburgh Women’s Aid encouraging them to reverse their policy position and provide comprehensive services to trans women.”

Article continues at https://www.deadlinenews.co.uk/2025/03/13/councillor-tables-motion-to-review-future-contracts-with-domestic-abuse-charity-amid-trans-row/

By chance Kemi Badenoch was in Scotland yesterday and had a few things to say.

Kemi Badenoch: Public bodies face ‘serious potential’ they are breaking law on single-sex spaces
https://www.holyrood.com/news/view,kemi-badenoch-public-bodies-face-serious-potential-they-are-breaking-law-on-singlesex-spaces

Soooo basically they’re threatening them??

nice funding you have there to support female survivors of sexual and domestic abuse, shame if something happened to it because you wouldn’t let men access your single sex groups for women

I think it is still part of this demented notion that even though, as recent court cases have shown, the EA allows for single sex services, some politicians in Scotland think they dont have to follow the law.

The think people should only follow the one true path of TWAW.

There is nothing to stop them funding trans inclusive services, but to have a policy that actually says no biological women only services should get public money is clearly illegal.

But as said on other threads it is clear this isn't about supporting TW but about punishing women, and especially those women who dont know their place.

(I suppose its a bit Trumpian ie if you dont do what I want I take away your money.)

"are excluded from women’s services then where are they supposed to go?"

That's not our problem, why should we be expected to be the solution. Maybe the City Council should start a Man's Aid programme.

Of course he fucking has. The misogyny is palpable

The greens are just a bunch of see you next Tuesdays.

Eventually, the only Green councillors around will be those who get enough student votes. I can't imagine any sensible, mature women voting for them.

Well, f**k me. They’re never getting my vote again.

Trumpian! Whatever you may think of his negotiating skills - He’s done more for womens safe spaces than anyone in the world

I was talking about financial bullying.

Or as it is now recognised economic coercion, something that many women have experienced from a domestic bully.

Trump is not our saviour.

The Green Party are really escalating their woman hating now, aren't they?

Why don't they create transwomen spaces and groups themselves, be a shining example of supporting the people they claim to be advocating for? Oh, yeah, cos they hate women and are determined to enable these men to forcibly insert themselves into women's spaces.

Not this rank misogynist again. I thought I recognised the name and searched MN, he (or is it ‘they’? One of him is more than enough) has form all sorts of woman hating

Just to add Trump has done nothing for single sex services. I suspect he would think that concept is part of DEI.

All he has done is say TW shouldn't compete in women's sport.

We will have to wait and see whether Edinburgh Council would be made enough to pass a vote that is in breach of the EA, and could be said to be politicising grant making. (which as we know goes on any way but this would be so overt)

The White House - Presidential actions ‘Defending women from gender ideology extremism and restoring biological truth to the Federal Government -
January 20th 2025
look it up its a good read and a pity the Government in UK can’t seem to speak in plain English like this!

Oh FFS 🤦‍♀️. I remember when Greens cared about the planet rather than just menz feelz. It’s as though they are vying with each other to become irrelevant and lose votes.

Why is it always the Greens who come up with the most ridiculous questions and arguments? Other parties beat about the bush, and each has some ridiculous M.P.s or policies, but it's always the Greens who give voice to the nonsense.

Which has absolutely nothing to do with charities (non profits) providing services but can only do so through Government grants.

Given the massive cuts across many departments including aid, I cant see Trump going on by the way forget what abouts cuts if its a biological women only service. He probably just thinks women experiencing domestic violence are probably at fault and they should more out of the family home, rent somewhere new and get a job.

edited to add https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/01/funding-freeze-domestic-violence-00206807

Imagine campaigning for women's services to have funding cut. Services that generally have a struggle to find funds as it is.

What kind of a man hates women so much he wants to remove funding from dv services?

It does seem like the motion is motivated by pure spite and a need for revenge rather any sense of civic duty and a concern that public money be spent on the right things.

It’s very odd. We are not trying to stop anyone having these services. But Sam is determined to stop women having a service.

Dear Councillor
Please can you remove your head from your anus and read your job descriprion and the paperwork for the organisation which you were elected to?
Your job is to provide the services for all the locals not just your special interest groups, thats what being elected means.
So rather than try bully women ( who provide a service to 51% of the local population ) into doing your work and bleeting against the law of the land get your ass off your tax funded seat and find an organisation willing to sign a SLA for the 1% of males who would prefer to be in their own space?

Letters to this councillor may be a good idea but I'd be cautious about using my real name. He seems highly misogynist.

Just to add Trump has done nothing for single sex services. I suspect he would think that concept is part of DEI
@IwantToRetire much as though I dislike Trump, I'm a fan of facts. If you read the executive order you will see that he deals with single sex spaces. In fact the executive order takes a sledge hammer to the trans row.

Executive Order 14168, titled "Defending Women from Gender Ideology Extremism and Restoring Biological Truth to the Federal Government"
Defending Women From Gender Ideology Extremism And Restoring Biological Truth To The Federal Government – The White House

There is a request by Feminist groups in Edinburgh that anyone who lives in Edinburgh writes to all their councillors (not just the Greens) to object to this motion -

https://x.com/EdinFeminists/status/1899932206841421881

Link to contact details for your councillors -

democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/mgFindMember.aspx