Green Councillor proposes no funding for women's that operate under the SSE of the EA

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It seems almost inevitable that someone from the Green Party would propose this.

But in a way it is good as it might put in the public sphere whether in fact this has been the existing practice of funders in Scotland.

SCOTTISH Greens Councillor Alex Staniforth has tabled a motion in next week’s City Council meeting asking for contracts with services such as Edinburgh Women’s Aid to be reconsidered.

This comes following Edinburgh Women’s Aid’s recently updated position statement, in which they state they “lawfully exclude transgender women and males who have transitioned to non-binary”.
Councillor Staniforth references the council’s position on LGBTQ+ equality, which asserts that Edinburgh is “an inclusive and welcoming city to LGBTQ+ people”.

Whilst the decision of the domestic abuse charity has been applauded by women’s rights movements in the city, it has been widely condemned by trans rights organisations and goes against the values of its umbrella organisation.

The motion tabled by Councillor Staniforth states that the council: “Notes that Edinburgh council has repeatedly reasserted that Edinburgh is an inclusive and welcoming city to LGBTQ+ people, and that this must include supporting people facing violence and abuse.

“Therefore resolves that Edinburgh council shall review its future SLAs and contracts with service providers offering support to people facing domestic abuse and sexual violence to make it clear that we expect services to be fully trans inclusive, in line with our position on LGBTQ+ equality, but always accepting that they must act within the law.
“Resolves that the leader of the council should write to Edinburgh Women’s Aid encouraging them to reverse their policy position and provide comprehensive services to trans women.”

Article continues at https://www.deadlinenews.co.uk/2025/03/13/councillor-tables-motion-to-review-future-contracts-with-domestic-abuse-charity-amid-trans-row/

Well said. This horrible mess we're in as partly a result of people ignoring or denying facts they dislike.

“Anyone can see that it would be wholly inappropriate for them [transwomen] to seek out men’s services." Councillor Staniforth says.

But not as inappropriate as it would be for them to seek out women's services, Councillor!

“Anyone can see that it would be wholly inappropriate for them to seek out men’s services."

Given that they are men it would seem wholly appropriate to seek out men's services, it's now up to men's services to provide the right service for these men. It's time men's services adjusted to fit the needs of the modern man, it's not a problem that women need to solve.

Trump neither wrote nor read the two EOs

The damage he is doing to the rights of women and children
(to employment, to healthcare, to education support, to clean water)
MASSIVELY outweigh those two EOs

So what. He signed them. The EOs exist.

Stainforth is a mean minded, spiteful bully, who is surely making a proposal which is unlawful. A petty little tyrant, stamping his foot in a tantrum.

I can't see how it can even be debated, will not a legal minded councillor point out that it's absolutely unacceptable?

Its also ignoring their own DV policy which is still listed as a draft document on the website.

So what. He signed them. The EOs exist.

So what. Everyone knows even if they didn't before that Trump will say anything and then deny it the next day.

Which is why I posted the link pointing out the cut to women's refuges.

Seriously.

This is the real world.

In the real world it is money that counts.

If you want to drool over a loud mouth bully who is all about showmanship but no substance carry on.

The reality is he doesn't care.

If he did he would have cut funding to women's refuges. or is he so stupid he didn't realise that these are "safe spaces" for women.

Fancy being taken in by the empty words of a politician.

You're just moving the goalposts.

Just to be clear, you said that there was only one EO relating to women, which was the one to do with protection of the female category in sports.
That is not correct. The one which was linked to upthread which you ignored is for the protection of women and explicitly says that US women have the right to single sex spaces.

Also, if pushing back on GII has nothing to do with women's rights to single sex spaces, it makes me wonder why we've all been bothering to fight it.

The EOs exist, they reassert biological reality and women's rights. Their validity and scope isn't predicated on anyone's feelings about Trump or whether he's (very secretly) pro-women or whether he wrote/read/understood the EOs. They are legal instruments.

@WandaSiri
Trump is not elected in Norwich
his views are nor Normal for Norfolk

Irrelevant. That's not the point at issue.

You're just moving the goalposts.

You are moving the goal posts.

The thread is about committing money to support women (biological) only services.

The Green councillor is overtly against it.

Trump statements have no value if the money is cut off.

ie whatever he said, in which ever EO counts for nothing if he doesn't put his money where his mouth is.

The idea that because Trump (or any man) has made women's sex based rights statements is somehow beyond criticism is just silly.

Unless and until the money is restored his words are empty.

And they were voted down, so have not entered into law.

it gave him a nice photo op, but that’s all.

Eh ?
EOs do not go to the Congress or Senate
They are both Law until the next President comes in.

The bill to protect Women's Sport (which would have been permanent)
was voted down by Senate Democrats
(for which they will all pay, badly)

They are both Law until the next President comes in.

Not if they are challenged by Congress who are the final law makers.

But as Trump has been able to get the Republicans to vote in some administrative ploy that says the actual days that have lapsed aren't real days, then usual procedures are on hold.

Republicans pass law to say a day isn't a day to give tyrant Trump a free hand!!

Republicans just passed a measure saying that for the rest of this congressional session, “each day…shall not constitute a calendar day” for the purposes of terminating Trump’s emergency declaration.

The Republicans’ legislation that a day is not a day seems to prove the truth of Burke’s observation that by trying to force reality to fit their ideology, radical ideologues will end up imposing tyranny in the name of liberty.

https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/march-12-2025

(Apologies for continuing the de-rail as clearly whatever malarkey Trump is getting up to in the US has nothing to do with a local councillor in the UK trying to get the council he is part of to breach the UK wide EA and actively discriminate against women.)

Here in the UK we have the radical ideas of
Electoral Funding Rules
The Equality Act
The Nolan Principles
the Transparency Code
The Audit and Accountability Act 2014

Hasta la vista USA