NHS Policy Audit - working party

[KnottyAuty]

Following on from Thread #23 of the Peggie v NHS Employment Tribunal. Anyone who wants to help with survey/audit of paperwork against the Equality Act protected characteristics please join here 😊

Reminds me of one Trust I came across that pledged to mark all the various trans days and to include trans people in all publication images (as well as a few other random things). Operation normalisation.

That was another discovery. It’s a measurable on the Stonewall award scale. I have to say that Stonewall really do understand the human psyche don’t they? Put a list of things to tick off connected to a competitive award where I can look good publicly by showing my worthiness and largesse (spending public money but we can draw a veil over that)…. And bingo a calendar full of utter tosh. “trans day of remembrance” I feel insulted on behalf of all those remembered on 11th Nov. I’m pretty sure they didn’t fight for this

Sorry I can't remember who did Croydon - @oviraptor21 ?
Any luck getting the missing FOI policies?
Ta

Linked with the quieter bit of suppressing 'bad news stories' that hinder this aim. Silencing, suppressing, chilling effect on anyone speaking out, deception like telling a raped woman she wasn't raped (and the CCTV is apparently wrong as well as her).

Also in search of the Guy's & St Thomas' transgender equality policy - can anyone help? @YellowRoom ?

I think they were the tone deaf bunch who released a new policy about 3rd March just in the wake of Sandie Peggie's tribunal - peak peak we might say?! I can find reports in the telegraph but I can't find the policy itself and the website seems to have been purged... anyone download it when it was released?

Thanks

Good morning @KnottyAuty Guy's and St. Thomas' Supporting Trans staff and patients Staff and Manager Guidance here:
www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/protocols_and_policies_regarding_155#incoming-1995227

Just in case this hasn't been seen elsewhere - apparently using correct sex pronouns is now a cause of suspension of nurses in the NHS.

'I am expected to tolerate racism, deny biological reality and suppress my deeply held Christian beliefs': Nurse who called transgender paedophile 'Mr' is suspended after investigation | Daily Mail Online

And they claim there's a shortage of nurses, perhaps this is why?

Why should this woman have to put up with such degrading working conditions that she cannot mention the biologically relevant fact of sex when talking about catheterisation, not to the patient, against her beliefs and using bog standard normal English she's used her whole life.

The NHS has been taken over by gender idolatry and apparently abandoned science and reason!

They're using the fig leaf of patient confidentiality but the nurse has not named him. As far as I know his identity has not been confirmed anywhere, so how can she have breached patient confidentiality? If he's identifiable it's because of the paedophilic crimes he's committed, which surely is his own fault? And she's whistleblowing against an ideology which explicitly means that rapes will be covered up in the NHS - as has already happened - with staff abusing a patient who's been raped with coercive control and gaslighting by denying it happened. I wonder how many more sexual assaults and rapes are being covered up in this way.

Our research shows this is NOT a bug or a one off it's a FEATURE of the policies.

It’s not just the NHS that is breaking the law by requiring female staff members to share toilet facilities with men. There's a thread on twitter outlining ASDA’s gender identity policies, stating that disciplinary action will be taken against employees for, among other things, raising concerns about a colleague using different toilets.

x.com/raqaellapaella/status/1908506601704546332

Sainsbury’s too expects its female staff to accept trans identified men in their changing room, at least in the big Harrogate branch. Upshot is that at least some of the female staff self exclude by changing elsewhere. Can’t avoid the loos though.

The customer loos in my local Sainsbury’s branch are now usually closed (marked out of order). I have wondered if this is a way the store manager is trying to deal with the issue. There are certainly a number of trans identified male customers, one in particular really gives me the creeps. He is usually dressed like a 1950s housewife, tweed skirt, with a bucket hat on over a wig. He makes a habit of standing too close to female customers when weighing up what to choose from the shelves. It’s creepy when you suddenly realise he has sidled up alongside you. So you move away. And watch him doing it to the next woman in the aisle.

There are repeated threats of disciplinary action to on or withdrawal of treatment for misuse of pronouns, “outing” and transphobic language/actions.

Thanks to Dr Upton that will soon be curbed because they confirmed that “nothing” would have been an acceptable/non-transphobic response to their use of the changing room. Such clear unreasonableness surely won’t get through the ET - at least it must be worthy of comment - whatever else the judgment is?

Happy to help. Have been asking awkward questions of all the people who should be doing better for a while now.

Just popping in to wish everyone a lovely Easter break - I am nearly finished ploughing through all the paperwork and hope to be done tonight. If we thought Scotland was bad, we have opened a fecking cesspit in London. The mental health and forensic patients part has really upset me TBH. Anyway I will keep you updated but we defo have press interest so watch this space. I'd hope that there are 2 if not 3 articles in it. Urgh reading all this is messing with my mind so I hope to finish today/tomorrow and then forget about it for a bit. Enjoy the festival of choccie eggs when it comes xx

@KnottyAuty awe thanks for your efforts, have a great break.

Happy Easter and enjoy the very well-deserved break. I hear you about mental health - it’s distressing, all of this, and the gaslighting … the duplicity. Utterly disgraceful.

This should not be happening and it should not be up to lay people with busy lives to investigate, unpaid and in secret because the climate makes it unpalatable to speak out.

Hope you can switch off…

Thanks @KnottyAuty and the same to you. Catch up after Easter xx

Hear Hear.

Coercive control is technically illegal, yet the NHS has been coercively controlling female patients and nurses who speak up about people who have empirically provable male bodies. It is not empirically provable that these men are women unless women becomes a completely meaningless word, losing all it's original meaning and any tether to reality, or means just pornified sex-role stereotypes (which most actual biological females would not meet).

It's illegal to treat people in this way. And yet...

It's so distressing to think of those who are already struggling with their mental health have reality undermined in this way deliberately by the NHS. Whatever happened to 'first do no harm'?

Thank you so much @KnottyAuty for the immense amount of work you've been doing on this, and the hope you're giving to us all. Hope you have a great break.

I did consider giving fruit to my children and telling them that the fruit identifies as chocolate, but since that would be unbelievably cruel, choccy eggs it is.

Thanks Knotty am on hols in Portugal. Hope all the vipers have a wonderful break. No doubt we will be back…….

Hoping your holidays are going well. I’m back from a few lovely days off. It looks like our London audit will be in the press at the weekend. So well done vipers xxx

Although I’m delighted with this morning’s Supreme Court ruling, all the NHS policies are still in place. So we need to press on with our audit. I’m thinking “The Midlands” would be a good group to go for following that X clip which appeared a few weeks ago of a Midlands NHS union rep criticising GC views.

Does anyone with better geography than me, have an idea what NHS Trusts would be in the “Midlands”?!

Theres this list - but the other NHS England we tried was woefully out of date:
https://www.england.nhs.uk/system-and-organisational-oversight/system-directory/midlands-region/

This is on the NHS BSA website - unfortunately only up to 2022 but it's a spreadsheet, can filter on 'region name' https://www.nhsbsa.nhs.uk/sites/default/files/2022-07/Website%20Names%20Lookup.xlsx

@KnottyAuty I am in the Midlands and I worked across it geographically for quite a few years so know it very well. It basically divides into two, East and West Midlands. I think for NHS purposes this is combined and the administrative areas are;
Staffordshire and Stoke on Trent, Shropshire and Telford and Wrekin, Derbyshire, Lincolnshire, Nottinghamshire, Leicester, Leicestershire and Rutland, The Black Country, Birmingham and Solihull, Coventry and Warwickshire, Herefordshire and Worcestershire, Northamptonshire

This link looks to be up to date for the NHS trusts
https://www.england.nhs.uk/system-and-organisational-oversight/system-directory/midlands-region/

Perfect timing for some news reporting about our audit and the pretty clear illegality (after the Supreme Court ruling) of NHS policies that replace 'sex' with gender and allow any man who says he's a woman into single sex spaces, without informing other patients and without their consent.

I wonder whether just normal patients can take the NHS to court for some accountability in senior management for what is a clearly illegal, discriminatory and harmful policy across the board. It's such a huge failure of governance and breaking of the law, with huge consequences for vulnerable women.

Happy to do some Midlands trust audits.

I have to confess I was very relieved that the SC judgement went biological for obvious reasons, but also because it meant our audit was not for nothing! And actually it possibly makes it more important that we finish the full England report as a "baseline" against which we can measure who changes in future...

The question is going to be - how long should we wait before putting in mass FOIs to all the Trusts to check if they have changed their policies to remove Gender self ID? 6 months?

Three days. They knew it was coming 😁