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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Entertainment industry wokebro vicious abuse

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thisneedstoend · 25/02/2025 09:17

Hi, I'm a regular visitor to these boards but don't normally post. Been following this topic for years and active in filling in consultations and writing to MPs etc.
So, I went to a party the other week for entertainment industry people, for a production I was involved in in a very minor way. I got horrendously drunk and somehow got onto stating that trans women are men. The wokebro who I was talking to and had never met before then went on to accuse me of all sorts of thought crimes, and in doing so released a torrent of abuse:

  • accused me of being a lesbian (I used the word ‘accused’ as to him this was presented as a negative, same for other items on this list)
  • tried to smear me as mentally ill or neurodivergent – variously accused me of being bipolar, autistic, schizophrenic and BPD
  • tried to smear me as a drug addict
  • tried to smear me as an alcoholic
  • accused me of having sex with animals
  • accused me of being really trans myself
  • wanted the details of my sexual assault so he could judge if I deserved it or not and asked what I was wearing
  • accused of having sex with adult men when I was a child
  • accused of cheating on my boyfriend
  • tried to deny the holocaust ever happened
  • said that a man wearing a yarmulke would deserve to be attacked if he was walking the streets, simply for being Jewish, because of the war in Israel/Palestine
  • accused of being a gold digger
  • accused of being far right
  • accused of wanting to bring back slavery and the colonialism
  • accused of being bad at my job
  • accused of being a paedophile
  • accused of being jealous of trans women
  • accused of being a ‘slut’
  • accused of making porn
  • accused of being a fundamentalist Christian
  • accused of having been a prostitute
  • accused of being racist
  • accused of wanting women to be trad wives
  • asked if I’ve had a miscarriage

I am sure there are more, but it was basically a character assassination and a torrent of unfounded abuse and intentionally offensive and traumatising interrogation that went on for what felt like hours. If I wasn't so drunk and with impaired judgement I would have just got the hell out of there. The man refused to go away despite me telling him to multiple times, kept inserting himself into my conversation with others, and then at the end of the night he tried to make me to get in a taxi with him, with his friend physically grabbing hold of my arm and trying to force me in. I had to shout at him to let go and threaten to call the police, and walk off on my own as no-one around me would help me.
I’ve never been open about my gender critical views with a stranger like that before, and it was quite the eye-opener just how much of a cult this is, and just how nasty the misogynistic abuse can get. I’ve never been so repulsed by anyone and the level of abuse that was hurled at me, he was trying to torture me and break me mentally. I’m sure many of you have experienced this already, but for me it has made me realise that this movement needs nothing less than complete and utter obliteration at any cost, there can be no concessions or compromises, because they will not accept any themselves. Their, at best indifference to women’s safety, at worst hatred of women is so deeply ingrained that they will never, ever listen to us, despite us having all the evidence. All the facts which I presented to him he had absolutely no comebacks for apart from the tired old cliches that I dispelled very easily, so all he had was abuse.
This man would literally rather women and children were raped and abused than ever admit safeguarding is necessary. In fact, he seemed like he rather liked the idea of women being raped and abused and their movements in society limited. Some of these men and women will never, ever listen to any kind of reason. They don’t question anything they are told from their sources on social media – and they don’t read anything else on the subject, it is a fundamentalist cult that they have been brainwashed in, and anyone who doesn’t follow the cult will be dehumanised and tortured as I was.
He kept asking me ‘how do you know this’ – about very basic things such as the fact that intersex is not the same thing as trans and intersex people are still either male or female. He even denied that men and women have different body fat percentages, and when I told him this, he said ‘you just have to work harder’. They are completely in a bubble. They cannot accept that you can agree with someone like Trump on protecting women’s sports but disagree with him on practically everything else. It is heresy to look at anything that isn’t a far left source and to question anything at all coming from far left ideology. These are entertainment industry people peddling this propaganda, they are frankly dumb as f-ck and viciously aggressive and abusive with it.
I will silently despise all these men and women who would destroy everything women have fought for because of their own ignorance, misogyny and conceit for the rest of my life. I will never ever forget this and will never let these people into my life in any regard.
One highlight was after being told I must be a racist, I informed him how black women were sick of this sh-t as well and told him exactly why, then having this lovely black woman from the party come up to me and say that she agreed with me. It was a joyous moment of sisterly solidarity! Anyway, I had to just let this out somewhere because I am absolutely raging still and traumatised at the vicious attack and at the fact that barely nobody would help me and just stood there as he abused me. Never ever think of backing down, not even an inch, because they’re not going to. They do not care the slightest bit if women and children are murdered, raped or abused, miss opportunities or have all of their rights taken away, they would rather preserve their own egos and I rather suspect that with a lot of these men in particular they are enjoying women being stripped of their rights and abused. What he subjected me to was nothing less than evil, what these people are willing to let happen to women as collateral for their ideology is evil, and I don’t know that I will ever forgive it.

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user3827 · 26/02/2025 09:43

Holeinamole · 25/02/2025 22:33

Is it worth talking to the police about the attempted abduction? Physically depriving another person of their liberty might be a criminal offence, and it might be worth making a report so it is on record.

France seems to be really behind on this and women’s rights in general. The Pelicot case comes to mind.

Especially when you see how short the sentences the men got were.

CocoapuffPuff · 26/02/2025 09:50

Greyskybluesky · 25/02/2025 09:43

at the end of the night he tried to make me to get in a taxi with him, with his friend physically grabbing hold of my arm and trying to force me in. I had to shout at him to let go and threaten to call the police, and walk off on my own as no-one around me would help me

WTF is this rapey behaviour? I really hope you don't run into this idiot again OP. He sounds dangerous, not just stupid.

Agreed. This is attempted abduction / kidnap. Were you at a venue with cctv? I'd speak to the police about this alone...

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/02/2025 11:06

Wow that's awful. Hope you are ok Flowers

thisneedstoend · 26/02/2025 12:59

I said to them at the time 'what, so you're trying to kidnap me?!' after they wouldn't stop trying to force me to get in the car and I threatened to call the police. I can't remember the b*stard's name though, and I have no faith in the police. I think a lot of his aggression came down to he approached me to talk before and I think he fancied me, and his nose got put out of joint that I went to talk to another man after he started getting nasty, so he wanted to force me into the car with him to ensure nothing happened with me and this other man. Ugh. What an utter cretin.

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Greyskybluesky · 26/02/2025 13:26

So all that verbal abuse was actually an extreme form of negging?
Honestly OP, please make sure you're not anywhere near where this guy is going to be in the future (if that's possible) he is seriously unbalanced and dangerous.

thisneedstoend · 26/02/2025 13:47

Greyskybluesky I think it was partly negging, partly him reacting to being humiliated by having absolutely no comebacks to all the points I made, and partly what the kids call 'cockblocking'. It certainly wasn't done to 'be kind' that's clear.

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UtopiaPlanitia · 26/02/2025 14:50

Some men can’t tolerate being stood up to and disobeyed by women. It fills them with visceral rage that they take out on the disobedient women as they try and cow these ‘unnatural’ women into assuming (what the men consider to be) women’s natural role of agreeing with everything a man says.

It’s a huge hit to their fragile egos and they behave irrationally towards women who defy them.

Fair play to you for refusing to be browbeaten into agreement with him OP!

thisneedstoend · 02/03/2025 14:31

I can't get this incident out of my head, it has really traumatised me. Because I was so drunk I revealed I didn't want men in women's spaces because I was a victim of both child abuse and spousal abuse. This man then went on to ask me what I did to deserve being beaten up as a child - ie trying to make out I deserved it, same for the spousal abuse, then kept trying to defame me as mentally ill, troubled, dangerous, must be a drug addict etc in front of everyone. I rarely reveal my troubled past to anyone and the way he tried to use it against me and shame me for it in front of everyone has really genuinely traumatised me. Have any wise women who have been in the trenches on this issue and suffered similar got any advice for me please in how I can get over this? I'm struggling tbh.

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thisneedstoend · 02/03/2025 14:35

It was the way nobody stepped in to tell him to back off and even joined in that makes it all the more traumatising.

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ArabellaScott · 02/03/2025 14:37

Have you sought counselling or therapy, OP? Did you say you were in Scotland?

https://www.rapecrisisscotland.org.uk/

ArabellaScott · 02/03/2025 14:40

Oh, sorry, France.

https://www.france-victimes.fr/index.php/component/association

thisneedstoend · 02/03/2025 14:44

I haven't but I feel like it's something I need after this incident, I can't get it out of my head, it was absolutely horrendous and went on and on with nobody trying to intervene or just seeing this abuse as entertainment.

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Igmum · 02/03/2025 15:02

That's awful Thisneedstoend. I'd be tempted to report them to the Police for the taxi part. Everything else aside you told him repeatedly to go away and leave you alone, he wouldn't, then tried to force you into his taxi at the end of the night. I mean WTF?

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