Doctors who change gender scrub links to public records

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I thought this deserved its own thread, rather than being lost in the Sandie Peggie threads. So apologies for another one.

https://archive.ph/8YYuM

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/20/doctors-change-gender-scrub-records/

I can't say I'm surprised, it's really just confirmation of something I suspected from posts about the new GMC no. in the other threads. It's much the same as the the holes in safeguarding caused by allowing name and identity changes for any person who claims to be transgender.

I have worked with health related data and we don’t use sex or gender as a matching criterion and when I saw your header I thought - no matter, surely the GMC number will stay the same as that’s essential for clinical audit and service evaluation.

If the GMC number changes….why?! That will make a mockery of all sorts of checks and balances that are in place to monitor patient safety over the years (eg a surgeon carrying out unnecessary surgeries may take years to spot).

When I changed my name on marriage my SRA number stayed the same (and you can look at my previous names on the roll of solicitors I believe; or at least ask to).

This is right up there with the DBS madness of relying on someone to disclose all previous names. All predicated on the unlikely premise that the only thing that causes anyone to be able to tell that a trans person is actually the opposite sex to the one they present as is those pesky details like reference numbers, and so they must be hidden at all costs.
See also - issuing police officers with two warrant cards if they are gender fluid.

Just like NHS number if you change your gender marker. There is consistency in the insanity

Just for anyone unaware of the loopholes which arise when changing name and sex on official documents -

kpssinfo.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/DBS-Checks-and-Identity-Verification.pdf

Isnt this all because TRAs claimed the right to a private life, on the basis that they are undetectable as women. So no one would know, and therefore you had to eliminate any possible circumstances under which they might be 'outed' as men.

It's obviously not fit for purpose. You can't claim no one knows you're a bloke, when everyone knows it and you know they know it, because you're claiming trans rights, on the back of it!

the right to a private life

Never mind "private life", it's engineered like a fecking witness protection programme.

But handed out on demand.

Insanity.

Yet when you become disabled, your right to anything resembling privacy, like same sex intimate care, is now null and void.

They [GMC] add: “Patients who want to see a doctor of a particular sex or gender are more likely to seek, and be able to obtain this, from their local healthcare providers.”

'Obtain this' how? Is the information made available to local healthcare providers who can then pass it on to 'patients who want to see a doctor of a particular sex or gender'.
Doubt it. So 'Yes of course you'll be seen by a woman doctor as requested - DrU will see you now Ms X...

Again, this is all linked to dismantling safeguarding. If a doctor can hide his failings by changing his name and thus his registration, what safeguard is there?

If there's a loophole, people will take advantage.

On the other thread someone

(specifically @mrshoho · Today 18:41
Well in the UK we have an NI number that is allocated on turning 16 years old. As far as I know this number stays the same all the way through to our death. It is linked to our taxes, banking, social services etc. The NHS would have details of all employees NI number.)

said the NI numbers remains throughout. If that's the case, surely that is what should be the first thing searched on when checking a potential employee's history.

Oo that’s interesting. If our NINO stays the same despite everything (birth certificate changes!?!, professional ID registration number changes etc) - that must be the single source of truth used. Anything associated with the Nino has to be available.

Although people have been trying to raise awareness of the problems I don't think enough folk will be interested until there is an incident. Then there will be an outcry and things will be changed in a hurry. Sadly, I don't think there will be enough interest to force a change until that happens.

I think that as a society we have to move away from the idea that there is a stigma attached to being trans or being "outed". Often it has been obvious when someone has a trans history but everyone pretends they can't see it for the sake of being kind. But that has consequences. If we can get to a position where there isn't a stigma perhaps as a society we can stop playing make believe and move forward? And perhaps a doctor could keep the original GMC number?

Where was Dr Upton's kindness to Nurse Peggie? Do tell.

I had thought that NINOs would be a good way to track people through name changes.

However, it appears that more than one person can have the same number, and it has been known for people to have two. This can only be rectified if individuals become aware of it and if they contact the relevant government department.

A more reliable system such as the US Social Security Number is needed.

Irish PPSN was what I wondered about originally - according to this there's a capacity for 10 million in the current format, so tweaking for the UK and adding a couple of letters seems feasible.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_Public_Service_Number

I was bit startled reading that to see that until the 90s women sometimes used the same number as their husbands. Very dodgy.

The GMC have become increasingly militant in the years since Shipman and very much position themselves as having patient safety at the heart of everything they do rather than the simple registration of doctors, going as far as to say they are there to protect patients from doctors.

So how is this consistent with that? If I read the article correctly they told The Telegraph they would need to do an FOI to be able to provide information on whether any doctors who have transitioned have been subject to previous sanctions.
“Owing to the complexities around information relating to doctors who have transitioned, we would need to carry out a Freedom of Information access request for details of any doctors who had ‘fitness to practise’ sanctions recorded on their pre-transition public-facing medical register entry,” the GMC says.

I am horrified and disappointed that the GMC are so captured that they completely change someone's registration as a doctor on a self-declared statement.
I looked this up myself about a month ago when I first heard of this case. I still can't get over it. Glad it is having publicity. The original registration is 'relinquished' and cancelled.

The GMC also state in a FOI response I've seen on X, that they do not record doctors' sex but record gender. This is a MEDICAL regulatory body which seems anti-science, and I have no choice but to fund.

The comments under that article so heartwarming, people are beginning to see and ask questions about DBS checks, teachers, police girl guides and more. They are horrified by all of this.
Maybe I'm being optimistic but with all this sunlight blazing upon the real life consequences of gender ideology I think we might just have reached the beginning of the end

Posted on the SP thread but here’s the reaction on the doctors subreddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/doctorsUK/comments/1iu6sst/the_gmc_confirms_to_the_telegraph_that_new/

This.is outrageous and horrific and I'm stunned the GMC can be so glib about safeguarding.

Thank goodness they get it.

Seems to be some deletions for “transphobia” and at least one “most marginalised” comment.

"Fitness to practice"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14417925/Patients-scared-gynaecologist-removing-ovaries-without-consent.html

Dr Ali Shokouh-Amiri faced more than 100 allegations of misconduct against six patients while he worked at the Princess Elizabeth Hospital in Guernsey in 2017 and 2018.

He was deemed ‘fit to practice’ by the Medical Practitioners Tribunal Service despite admitting 24 of the charges which included performing multiple intimate examinations without a chaperone present.

The panel ruled that there was ‘no clinical indication’ for removing the ovaries from one of the women, and admitted that his serious misconduct’ had the ‘potential to affect the public’s confidence in the profession’.

Southend Hospital, where he now works, insists it has 'full confidence' in the gynaecologist to provide 'safe, high-quality care to our patients'.

But 14,000 people have signed a petition started by worried patients demanding he be struck off.

And

More than 70 of the allegations related to sexually motivated conduct, and the gynaecologist admitted allegations that he touched one patient's clitoris, kissed and hugged another patient on two occasions, rubbed or touched a third patient's leg
Despite these findings, the tribunal ruled there is a 'low risk of Dr Shokouh-Amiri putting patients at a risk of unwarranted harm' and gave him a warning.

The petition, launched by Mollie Randall, said: 'The General Medical Council (GMC) states that as healthcare professionals, doctors are expected to receive informed consent from the patient before starting treatment or physical investigation, or providing personal care.

'Dr Shokouh-Amiri's non-consensual removal of a young girl's ovaries is a clear violation of this professional rule – causing harm not just physically, but emotionally as well.

'Additionally, the GMC also mandates a doctor to protect patients from harm and abuse, another regulation Dr Shokouh-Amiri has transgressed.
'It's time for us to unite against this abuse of power and demand justice for his victims.

I have come to the conclusion after this week, that in simple terms, the GMC don't give a shit about safeguarding female patients.

I mean where is the bar for getting struck off, if this guy HAS'T been struck off? It makes a mockery of the phrase 'fit to practice', because he doesn't meet my expectations of where the bar should be sitting.

Just in case anyone can't read this, here's a share token version

https://telegraph.co.uk/gift/54960354738dc9fc