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Doctors who change gender scrub links to public records

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lcakethereforeIam · 20/02/2025 17:09

I thought this deserved its own thread, rather than being lost in the Sandie Peggie threads. So apologies for another one.

https://archive.ph/8YYuM

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/20/doctors-change-gender-scrub-records/

I can't say I'm surprised, it's really just confirmation of something I suspected from posts about the new GMC no. in the other threads. It's much the same as the the holes in safeguarding caused by allowing name and identity changes for any person who claims to be transgender.

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lcakethereforeIam · 21/02/2025 01:47

Wes Streeting is wringing his hands

https://archive.ph/W6lbJ

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/20/wes-streeting-condemns-wiping-of-trans-doctors-records/

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NecessaryScene · 21/02/2025 06:40

I think that as a society we have to move away from the idea that there is a stigma attached to being trans or being "outed". [...] If we can get to a position where there isn't a stigma perhaps as a society we can stop playing make believe and move forward?

There never was a stigma, and there still isn't, beyond being fucked off with idiocy like the Upton case.

Transphobia has never been a significant thing.

Homophobia, yes, absolutely. And the original concern of the homosexual transsexual was being outed as being homosexual, rather than being a straight woman. It was never about being outed as being "trans". (Indeed, the "trans-ness" only made the homosexuality more palatable, hence getting the right to same-sex marry earlier).

Straight transvestites have never been the subject of more than moderate ridicule - their biggest concern was always being very clear that they weren't homosexual, and their groups like the Beaumont Society would have strict "no gays" rules. If you were respectably married, that was ideal.

The modern hysterical fear of "transphobia" and "outing" is role play and part of the manipulation to get what they want - picking up the trappings of the gay rights movement, just like they steal everything else.

Cailin66 · 21/02/2025 06:52

So if you sexually assault patients you chase your ge der to get a clean record, then you now continue as before. Then you detransition, will they give you a third new GMC number then?

Sounds very handy for sex abusers.

ArabellaScott · 21/02/2025 07:16

RedToothBrush · 20/02/2025 22:39

"Fitness to practice"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14417925/Patients-scared-gynaecologist-removing-ovaries-without-consent.html

Dr Ali Shokouh-Amiri faced more than 100 allegations of misconduct against six patients while he worked at the Princess Elizabeth Hospital in Guernsey in 2017 and 2018.

He was deemed ‘fit to practice’ by the Medical Practitioners Tribunal Service despite admitting 24 of the charges which included performing multiple intimate examinations without a chaperone present.

The panel ruled that there was ‘no clinical indication’ for removing the ovaries from one of the women, and admitted that his serious misconduct’ had the ‘potential to affect the public’s confidence in the profession’.

Southend Hospital, where he now works, insists it has 'full confidence' in the gynaecologist to provide 'safe, high-quality care to our patients'.

But 14,000 people have signed a petition started by worried patients demanding he be struck off.

And

More than 70 of the allegations related to sexually motivated conduct, and the gynaecologist admitted allegations that he touched one patient's clitoris, kissed and hugged another patient on two occasions, rubbed or touched a third patient's leg
Despite these findings, the tribunal ruled there is a 'low risk of Dr Shokouh-Amiri putting patients at a risk of unwarranted harm' and gave him a warning.

The petition, launched by Mollie Randall, said: 'The General Medical Council (GMC) states that as healthcare professionals, doctors are expected to receive informed consent from the patient before starting treatment or physical investigation, or providing personal care.

'Dr Shokouh-Amiri's non-consensual removal of a young girl's ovaries is a clear violation of this professional rule – causing harm not just physically, but emotionally as well.

'Additionally, the GMC also mandates a doctor to protect patients from harm and abuse, another regulation Dr Shokouh-Amiri has transgressed.
'It's time for us to unite against this abuse of power and demand justice for his victims.

I have come to the conclusion after this week, that in simple terms, the GMC don't give a shit about safeguarding female patients.

I mean where is the bar for getting struck off, if this guy HAS'T been struck off? It makes a mockery of the phrase 'fit to practice', because he doesn't meet my expectations of where the bar should be sitting.

Either they don't care or they are actively supporting it.

ArabellaScott · 21/02/2025 07:17

Who regulates the GMC?

ArabellaScott · 21/02/2025 07:22

Parliament, apparently. That you, Wes?

https://www.gmc-uk.org/about/who-we-are/our-chief-executive-and-senior-management-team

The board are all politicos, civil servant, lawyery types. I'm surprised, I thought they'd be more medically backgrounded.

Faffertea · 21/02/2025 07:48

Its terrible @RedToothBrush.

I don’t understand why as SoS for Health Wes can’t compel them to rectify this.

Hoardasurass · 21/02/2025 08:00

Cailin66 · 21/02/2025 06:52

So if you sexually assault patients you chase your ge der to get a clean record, then you now continue as before. Then you detransition, will they give you a third new GMC number then?

Sounds very handy for sex abusers.

Worse you can continue to sexually assault female patients who specifically request a female dr with gmc backing and cover because they say he is a female dr

IhaveanewTVnow · 21/02/2025 09:02

ArabellaScott · 21/02/2025 07:16

Either they don't care or they are actively supporting it.

I need to sign the petition. If I behaved like that in my office, stroking a man’s leg etc I would be out.

DeanElderberry · 21/02/2025 09:16

I suspect if the doctor had stroked a man's leg etc he'd be out too. Men have rights, women are entertainment.

teawamutu · 21/02/2025 09:44

ArabellaScott · 21/02/2025 07:16

Either they don't care or they are actively supporting it.

It wouldn't have been the GMC that concluded he was fit to practice, but the Medical Practitioners Tribunal Service - separate organisation.

As I understand it (not a doctor) GMC regulates and investigates, imposes interim restrictions and takes cases to the MPTS. They're the equivalent of the CPS, taking a case to court. They can't affect the outcome.

Grammarnut · 21/02/2025 10:05

Kittygolightlyy · 20/02/2025 19:00

Oo that’s interesting. If our NINO stays the same despite everything (birth certificate changes!?!, professional ID registration number changes etc) - that must be the single source of truth used. Anything associated with the Nino has to be available.

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This must be generally known, esp to people in professions such as medicine. We may see a concerted effort to be allowed to change NI numbers as well. When one loophole closes they open another one.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/02/2025 10:11

Isnt this all because TRAs claimed the right to a private life, on the basis that they are undetectable as women. So no one would know, and therefore you had to eliminate any possible circumstances under which they might be 'outed' as men.

It's obviously not fit for purpose. You can't claim no one knows you're a bloke, when everyone knows it and you know they know it, because you're claiming trans rights, on the back of it!

This. These men are using it as a power trip, rather than going "stealth".

CautiousLurker01 · 21/02/2025 14:39

On the basis criminal records, medical records etc are all also scrubbed because new NI numbers and NHS no are issued when a GRC is enacted - it is all shocking. If people really want to change their name, fine, but NI/NHS/Porfessional registration numbers should follow the individual regardless of name and gender changes. This should always have been the case.

CatProcrastinator1 · 21/02/2025 15:33

rebeccasaysno on twitter has done lots of work on the GMA and the capture of doctors and their institutions generally.

CautiousLurker01 · 21/02/2025 21:56

Interestingly a comment on the Telegraph points out that if you change your name for other reasons (presumably in this case for reasons of reverting to Islam but possible through an islamic marriage) you do not get to erase your history. It’s just a perk of transgenderism. This is the link posted there to show how Dr Victoria Pickles, once she had become Dr Maryam Mohamed al Qureshi, did not get to erase the transgression committed in her former name.

https://www.mpts-uk.org/-/media/mpts-rod-files/dr-maryam-mohamed-al-qureshi-10-sep-24.pdf

lcakethereforeIam · 21/02/2025 22:03

Another Telegraph article, apparently even the hospitals hiring these characters can't see their disciplinary records

https://archive.ph/0vYeN

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/21/nhs-hospitals-hiring-trans-doctors-disciplinary-records/

Eta link and rogue apostrophe

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Hoardasurass · 22/02/2025 00:59

CautiousLurker01 · 21/02/2025 21:56

Interestingly a comment on the Telegraph points out that if you change your name for other reasons (presumably in this case for reasons of reverting to Islam but possible through an islamic marriage) you do not get to erase your history. It’s just a perk of transgenderism. This is the link posted there to show how Dr Victoria Pickles, once she had become Dr Maryam Mohamed al Qureshi, did not get to erase the transgression committed in her former name.

https://www.mpts-uk.org/-/media/mpts-rod-files/dr-maryam-mohamed-al-qureshi-10-sep-24.pdf

People who are put into witness protection in the UK don't get a new birth certificate, NHS number or NI number literally the only people who get a completely new identity in the UK are trans people.
Even the sleep deprived new mother who didn't notice that the registrar wrongly recorded her baby daughter as a M male on her birth certificate can only get an amended birth certificate instead of a new/correct 1 issued

EasternStandard · 22/02/2025 07:37

Is there a plan from the gov to change this?

A few words by Streeting but what next?

WorriedMutha · 22/02/2025 08:00

I just read that Daily Mail article about the rogue gynae guy. There was a time tapping on a Mail article left me reaching for the hand sanitizer but not anymore.
I'm informed in the piece that a spokesman for Southend hospital was at pains to reassure 'women and all birthing people' that they take safeguarding seriously. You can relax now ladies.

Chersfrozenface · 22/02/2025 08:50

You can relax now ladies.

Surely you meant "ladies and non-lady birthing people".

Hoardasurass · 22/02/2025 17:40

The GMC will now link the disciplinary records further public to see but will remove the old name and pronouns from the records

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/22/disciplinary-records-trans-doctors-will-be-public-gmc-nhs/

AlexaAdventuress · 22/02/2025 17:56

Before we get too enamoured of the value of a National Insurance number as a unique identifier, it's worth pointing out that it is perfectly possible to have more than one. I do. Apparently, when I was around 16 I was issued with one but my mother hid it and didn't tell me. Accordingly, when I was of an age to want things like work and benefits I was under the impression I didn't have one, so applied for an NI number and was issued with one. I thought I'd somehow slipped trough the net because we moved house a lot when I was young. It was only when she died that I found my original one among my mother's personal effects. So that's how you can end up with two NI numbers. I've never used it to swap identities or succeeded in monetising this in any way. But let's not make too many assumptions about it being unique or that people only have one of them!

Peregrina · 23/02/2025 00:09

The GMC will now link the disciplinary records further public to see but will remove the old name and pronouns from the records

Well, it's a start, but it's still not good enough.

Grammarnut · 24/02/2025 09:35

AlexaAdventuress · 22/02/2025 17:56

Before we get too enamoured of the value of a National Insurance number as a unique identifier, it's worth pointing out that it is perfectly possible to have more than one. I do. Apparently, when I was around 16 I was issued with one but my mother hid it and didn't tell me. Accordingly, when I was of an age to want things like work and benefits I was under the impression I didn't have one, so applied for an NI number and was issued with one. I thought I'd somehow slipped trough the net because we moved house a lot when I was young. It was only when she died that I found my original one among my mother's personal effects. So that's how you can end up with two NI numbers. I've never used it to swap identities or succeeded in monetising this in any way. But let's not make too many assumptions about it being unique or that people only have one of them!

I wonder why your mother hid it - it seems very odd.

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