Police using they/them pronouns for schoolgirl rapist

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c98yjp5nzglo.amp

The BBC are also using they/them pronouns. Is this something that’s required by IPSO?

He’s also proving that sexual offenders escalate, having previously received a community order for voyeurism.

Maybe you could swerve your concern to the victim in all this?
Difficult for some people I know but women on here will fully understand that she should be at the centre of all this after what he did to her. The police and BBC need to rein in their desperation to pander to his demands.

The victim absolutely should be the focus not what bloody pronoun they're using

I agree that this vile rapist’s demands for others to obfuscate his sex should not be respected … BUT I think it is importantly that the press reports that the rapist identifies as transgender. There is a long catalogue now of sex offenders doing so which means that the question whether such an identification is linked to sexual offending is a valid one.

I agree. “Non binary” makes my tits itch. Utter nonsense.

And yet, plenty of countries allow NB on passports. Madness.

So you can't see how galling it would be for a rape victim to refer to her/his rapist as she? When the rapist is male?

I know you have a trans pal Maddy hence you popping up on these boards to defend trans people to the hilt (I have lots of male pals and I don't see the need to defend the male sex but anyhoo) but lying to a rape victim and compelling her to go along with this lie? That's ok?

Gaslighting a rape victim about the sex of her attacker is enabling further abuse by her attacker.
Predators love to exert control over their victims, its common for them to use threats to silence them. This is just a new type of abuse. The justice system should not be enabling predators. Its not hard, you shouldn't need special training in being trauma informed to see how this is a problem.

This is not about the victim's pronouns. We're talking about her having to watch the BBC & police pandering to the man who committed the male crime of rape (alongside kidnap, threatening her with a bladed weapon and other crimes). They're enabling a dangerous man to centre himself and his desired pronouns. Idiots.

Did he identify as transgender and use they/them pronouns before he was arrested or is this another sex offender suddenly discovering his lady feels when he's been caught?

Thank you.

Absolutely true. No one should pander to a rapist’s pretence that he thinks he’s female.

A woman was raped on a hospital ward. For months, the hospital tried to gaslight her and everyone else by saying it couldn't have happened because there were only women on the ward.
The culprit was a transwoman. By calling her a woman and she/her, they very nearly stopped the victim from getting any justice at all, and by implication branded her delusional or a liar. Fortunately somebody persisted and the culprit was identified and charged.
So yes, pronouns do matter.

Please tell me he will be incarcerated in a male prison

There's a protest in London today to raise awareness about this, search #notourcrimes (I'll try and attach info but not sure if it will work)

Should we prioritise the wishes and feelings of a rapist? No.

Should we/the media give a rapist control over how his crimes are reported? No.

Are these women’s crimes? No.

Thanks for publicising the protest @renomeno. I wish I could attend but I'm too far away. Sending strength to all who are there in the face of this madness.

So in short: you need the language used by others to clearly indicate approximate genitalia of the subject. Why?

Do you want to be complicit in raising a generation of children to not be able to identify men as men? Even while they're being raped by them?

Like it or not, the male sex is the predator class. Who do you think benefits from telling little kids they can't identify them?

Drag your focus off the men for one bloody second.

Absolutely ridiculous. No way in hell would I be calling some vile man who raped me a woman.
The world is bonkers.

Because men (or maybe, according to your post, people with penises), are the ones who commit the sex crimes. Almost all of them in fact. Something like 98% of them.

Who benefits from going out of the way to obscure this fact?

It affected the outcome when NHS said a woman hadn’t been raped because there were no men on the ward.

Accuracy matters. Facts matter.
Fantasy, preference and feels do not, they are just for fun.

Can't you work that out for yourself?
He's a man, using his male strength snd anatomy to commit a male crime against a girl. Using neutral pronouns is pandering to some pretence in his mind and rampant in society right now, that he can change his mind about being a man, after the event, and can coerce and control the people who should be punishing him into pandering to him. If you can't see that this is a game of control in his mind, and that he gets a kick both from brutally controlling a young girl and mentally and socially controlling the police, then please practise your critical thinking skills.

Ah this is where the usual suspects are! I was wondering as they’ve been really conspicuous by their absence on the Sandie threads.
Clearly defending rapists is more familiar ground.

How about reading a report that said 'A man with no hands manually strangled a woman'

How about reading that he only half-killed her and she had to give her witness statements in court describing him, each time she mentioned him, as 'a man with no hands' before going on to describe how he throttled her. With his hands.

The reason clarity of wording is needed is that people don't understand what has happened unless language is truthful.

Totally agree with you, OP. It’s enraging.