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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Teacher identifying as cat - Queensland/Australia

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SeethingHarpie · 07/02/2025 23:13

https://www.couriermail.com.au/queensland-education/schools-hub/marsden-state-high-school-teacher-who-identifies-as-a-cat/news-story/8d5215b672a8ebb9223507c0ad177944

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colinthedogfromaccounts · 08/02/2025 01:31

MarsScarlet · 08/02/2025 00:38

I'm Australian. Even though it's in Queensland, I'm not convinced. It's in the Courier-Mail, to start with. It has all the predictable rage sites frothing so ... jury is out for the moment for me.

^ This ^

JoyousGreyOrca · 08/02/2025 01:32

NotBadConsidering · 08/02/2025 01:26

I love the way the regular TRA posters come on threads like these determined to make it not true, as if there’s some sort of logic that states it’s nonsensical for a human to identify as a different species, but not the opposite sex 🤣

I am not a TRA. There is zero evidence it is true. The facebook page for the school, and a parents open group for the school, make no mention of this so called teacher,

Yazzi · 08/02/2025 01:33

NotBadConsidering · 08/02/2025 01:26

I love the way the regular TRA posters come on threads like these determined to make it not true, as if there’s some sort of logic that states it’s nonsensical for a human to identify as a different species, but not the opposite sex 🤣

Is that me? I've never posted in a thread like this before. But I'm in Australia and from a family that works largely in education so I'm interested here.

I think the person is clearly mentally ill if it's true as portrayed and it's not something the school or department would treat as rational behaviour- as indeed they haven't. I think the link between someone licking their hands in a classroom and hissing (hygiene issues) vs someone presenting as the opposite gender are pretty far apart.

colinthedogfromaccounts · 08/02/2025 01:36

Having just finished 15 years (3 DC) in the Queensland Ed system, I can guarantee you that if a teacher licked a student they would be sacked withing minutes.

I suspect this is a male drama teacher demonstrating something and absolutely nothing to do with identifying as a cat.

Marsden is a well known and high performing school - this would not be tolerated and I would wager is a work of fiction.

JoyousGreyOrca · 08/02/2025 01:47

And if it had happened, the parents facebook group for the school would be full of comments from parents. The article claims it is. But that simply is not true.

NotBadConsidering · 08/02/2025 01:57

JoyousGreyOrca · 08/02/2025 01:32

I am not a TRA. There is zero evidence it is true. The facebook page for the school, and a parents open group for the school, make no mention of this so called teacher,

The regular TRAs know who they are.

It doesn’t matter if this story is true. It’s just funny watching people who believe humans can change sex get flustered over a story about a human who wants to change species. Surely if you believe in one, you shouldn’t be in a rush to deny the other as nonsense? What’s the difference?

sadmillenial · 08/02/2025 03:06

NotBadConsidering · 08/02/2025 01:57

The regular TRAs know who they are.

It doesn’t matter if this story is true. It’s just funny watching people who believe humans can change sex get flustered over a story about a human who wants to change species. Surely if you believe in one, you shouldn’t be in a rush to deny the other as nonsense? What’s the difference?

the difference is..... that it's different?

its a completely different thing, gender fluidity has a massive and very well documented history across multiple cultures and countries. To deny it flies in the face of any measure of accepted historical record.

You can hold a position on either side of that issue, that's up to you to decide, but diminishing it and equating it to a very obviously false report of something else entirely is gross. Do better.

NotBadConsidering · 08/02/2025 03:16

sadmillenial · 08/02/2025 03:06

the difference is..... that it's different?

its a completely different thing, gender fluidity has a massive and very well documented history across multiple cultures and countries. To deny it flies in the face of any measure of accepted historical record.

You can hold a position on either side of that issue, that's up to you to decide, but diminishing it and equating it to a very obviously false report of something else entirely is gross. Do better.

How is it different? Explain to me so I can do better.

Male person says they’re female when they’re clearly not.
Female person says they’re male when they’re clearly not.
Female says they’re cat when they’re clearly not.

Why is “human says they’re [something they’re clearly not]” only real if it’s certain things and not others?

Why does history matter? It’s like saying Christianity is a more convincing religion than Scientology.

And you say it’s not true. If it’s not true, why would a Department of Education spokesperson need to say this?

A Department of Education spokesperson said the school was aware of parents’ concerns and the principal had addressed the issue directly with the teacher.

“Teachers are held to the highest standards of professionalism and ethics,” the spokesperson said,

“This behaviour is not acceptable in Queensland state schools.”

They didn’t deny it. They said it had been addressed with the teacher and wasn’t acceptable behaviour. So why isn’t it true?

oakleaffy · 08/02/2025 03:41

Surely no school would allow such nonsense with paid staff.

SeethingHarpie · 08/02/2025 04:14

oakleaffy · 08/02/2025 03:41

Surely no school would allow such nonsense with paid staff.

Well, it is a state where any transgender child in the state education system must be immediately affirmed upon declaring they are trans, the school must immediately allow full social transition and the child is immediately permitted to use the toilet/changeroom/sports teams of the opposite sex. Oh, and if parents are deemed not supportive or ‘phobic, then the school is to affirm at school, and guide the parents - and if that fails to ensure complete capitulation, then they are to refer the parents to the Anti Discrimination Commission.

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margeyoursoakinginit · 08/02/2025 04:41

It is Queensland. They are, um, slightly different than the rest of Australia. ( except SE Qld and the GC) Vast majority are lovely. Quite a lot are bonkers. Every country must have that one state or region where you go "oh you're from there, well that explains it". Photo looked like a man to me too. No idea if it's true but naming the school makes me think theres at least something to it or they'd be sued.

colinthedogfromaccounts · 08/02/2025 04:43

SeethingHarpie · 08/02/2025 04:14

Well, it is a state where any transgender child in the state education system must be immediately affirmed upon declaring they are trans, the school must immediately allow full social transition and the child is immediately permitted to use the toilet/changeroom/sports teams of the opposite sex. Oh, and if parents are deemed not supportive or ‘phobic, then the school is to affirm at school, and guide the parents - and if that fails to ensure complete capitulation, then they are to refer the parents to the Anti Discrimination Commission.

Are you in Queensland or is that what you have read.

My 17 year old daughter is at a Protect Trans Rights rally today as gender affirming care has been paused in Queensland. She is straight but her best friend is a trans man (AFAB).

https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/pause-on-puberty-blockers-leaves-patients-languish

As a parent who has run the gamut of schools here, I can say that your statement is absolutely not the truth in reality. Schools don't recognise name changes - they will use the birth name on all documents.

My children did not go to coed schools and no provision for gender neutral bathrooms was made. I can't comment on the bathroom status at coed schools.

Interested in your sources as they are at odds with what is happening on the ground.

FWIW - we have just moved away from Qld largely due to it's conservative, hard right wing leaning. Racism, sexism, misogyny, trans right denial, climate scepticism, Indigenous Rights denial are all RIFE so I am struggling to align your view of Qld for what it is - a big old country town run by old white dudes.

newsGP - Puberty blocker pause leaves patients ‘languishing’

GPs caring for young trans people in Queensland will face ‘a very hard time’ following a pause on hormone therapy for under 18s.

https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/pause-on-puberty-blockers-leaves-patients-languish

SeethingHarpie · 08/02/2025 04:52

colinthedogfromaccounts · 08/02/2025 04:43

Are you in Queensland or is that what you have read.

My 17 year old daughter is at a Protect Trans Rights rally today as gender affirming care has been paused in Queensland. She is straight but her best friend is a trans man (AFAB).

https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/pause-on-puberty-blockers-leaves-patients-languish

As a parent who has run the gamut of schools here, I can say that your statement is absolutely not the truth in reality. Schools don't recognise name changes - they will use the birth name on all documents.

My children did not go to coed schools and no provision for gender neutral bathrooms was made. I can't comment on the bathroom status at coed schools.

Interested in your sources as they are at odds with what is happening on the ground.

FWIW - we have just moved away from Qld largely due to it's conservative, hard right wing leaning. Racism, sexism, misogyny, trans right denial, climate scepticism, Indigenous Rights denial are all RIFE so I am struggling to align your view of Qld for what it is - a big old country town run by old white dudes.

I live in Queensland and have researched the Trans agenda in schools in significant detail - partly as a means of keeping my DC safe, partly as it horrifies me.

If you reread my post, the Handbook and regulations I stipulated were produced by the previous government - who were absolutely pro-trans and forced GI ideology into schools.

I can only hope the new government counters all of the insidious and unscientific policies enacted by Labor.

That said, however, I do feel empathy for confused and vulnerable children caught up in this trans mess. I hope your DC receives the most appropriate care/etc they need, and is able to be happy.

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MarsScarlet · 08/02/2025 05:18

@SeethingHarpie

Do you have a child in Queensland Education at present? I do, and I would not be at all surprised if it was true - given the previous Qld government rules and dictates around GI in schools…

No, but my SIL is a teacher in the high school system in QLD. She has never mentioned anything like this - the only issues she mentions on a regular basis relate to student behaviour.

MarsScarlet · 08/02/2025 05:27

@NotBadConsidering

The regular TRAs know who they are.

It doesn’t matter if this story is true. It’s just funny watching people who believe humans can change sex get flustered over a story about a human who wants to change species. Surely if you believe in one, you shouldn’t be in a rush to deny the other as nonsense? What’s the difference?

This refers to me.

It's an obvious attempt to stop me from speaking - and that's ironic, given one of the first complaints on any thread when someone (often me) posts a slightly different viewpoint is 'you're trying to stop women from speaking!'

I don't care, NotBad. I'm not a TRA, nor do I think men can become women. Sometimes I have a different view to you, and that should be okay.

This article, though, doesn't have enough information. It seems to be clickbait more than anything else. Why are you in such a hurry to believe it?

GrammarTeacher · 08/02/2025 06:16

Clearly there’s some thought that this is a ‘gotcha’. The lack of concern over whether this is true or not is shocking.

NotBadConsidering · 08/02/2025 06:43

It's an obvious attempt to stop me from speaking

🤣 where did I say “don’t speak”? I just pointed out I found something funny. Keep posting I say. It’s amusing to see people tie themselves in ideological knots.

It seems to be clickbait more than anything else. Why are you in such a hurry to believe it?

What do you make of this then?

A Department of Education spokesperson said the school was aware of parents’ concerns and the principal had addressed the issue directly with the teacher.
“Teachers are held to the highest standards of professionalism and ethics,” the spokesperson said,
“This behaviour is not acceptable in Queensland state schools.”

What behaviour is not acceptable? Why did the issue need to be addressed with the teacher?

FeralWoman · 08/02/2025 06:49

colinthedogfromaccounts · 08/02/2025 04:43

Are you in Queensland or is that what you have read.

My 17 year old daughter is at a Protect Trans Rights rally today as gender affirming care has been paused in Queensland. She is straight but her best friend is a trans man (AFAB).

https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/pause-on-puberty-blockers-leaves-patients-languish

As a parent who has run the gamut of schools here, I can say that your statement is absolutely not the truth in reality. Schools don't recognise name changes - they will use the birth name on all documents.

My children did not go to coed schools and no provision for gender neutral bathrooms was made. I can't comment on the bathroom status at coed schools.

Interested in your sources as they are at odds with what is happening on the ground.

FWIW - we have just moved away from Qld largely due to it's conservative, hard right wing leaning. Racism, sexism, misogyny, trans right denial, climate scepticism, Indigenous Rights denial are all RIFE so I am struggling to align your view of Qld for what it is - a big old country town run by old white dudes.

What @SeethingHarpie wrote was definitely correct prior to the state election in October last year. I remember reading it. I can’t find it now so I’m guessing the current government has taken it down. There are new pages up on the department of education website, a new square logo and references to bathrooms instead of toilets which is weird. They’re toilets, not somewhere to have a shower or bath.

I found this. Scroll to section 4.1. It states that parents are not exempt from discrimination. I take that as a threat to report parents for discrimination if they don’t affirm their child.

kelvingrovesc.eq.edu.au/supportandresources/formsanddocuments/documents/policy%20documents/supporting%20gender%20diverse%20students%20policy.pdf

FeralWoman · 08/02/2025 06:54

FWIW I think that Miss Purr is a woman, not a man.

MarsScarlet · 08/02/2025 07:30

NotBadConsidering · 08/02/2025 06:43

It's an obvious attempt to stop me from speaking

🤣 where did I say “don’t speak”? I just pointed out I found something funny. Keep posting I say. It’s amusing to see people tie themselves in ideological knots.

It seems to be clickbait more than anything else. Why are you in such a hurry to believe it?

What do you make of this then?

A Department of Education spokesperson said the school was aware of parents’ concerns and the principal had addressed the issue directly with the teacher.
“Teachers are held to the highest standards of professionalism and ethics,” the spokesperson said,
“This behaviour is not acceptable in Queensland state schools.”

What behaviour is not acceptable? Why did the issue need to be addressed with the teacher?

Lovely.

ATM, I think that's a fairly standard generic statement from the Department of Education.

WillIEverBeOk · 08/02/2025 09:35

colinthedogfromaccounts · 08/02/2025 04:43

Are you in Queensland or is that what you have read.

My 17 year old daughter is at a Protect Trans Rights rally today as gender affirming care has been paused in Queensland. She is straight but her best friend is a trans man (AFAB).

https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/pause-on-puberty-blockers-leaves-patients-languish

As a parent who has run the gamut of schools here, I can say that your statement is absolutely not the truth in reality. Schools don't recognise name changes - they will use the birth name on all documents.

My children did not go to coed schools and no provision for gender neutral bathrooms was made. I can't comment on the bathroom status at coed schools.

Interested in your sources as they are at odds with what is happening on the ground.

FWIW - we have just moved away from Qld largely due to it's conservative, hard right wing leaning. Racism, sexism, misogyny, trans right denial, climate scepticism, Indigenous Rights denial are all RIFE so I am struggling to align your view of Qld for what it is - a big old country town run by old white dudes.

Osteoporosis at age 24 (twenty-four), liver tumours, decreased IQ, decreased spinal width, fecal and urinary incontinence as well as an inability to ever achieve orgasm if past Tanner Stage two is NOT 'care'.

Qld has been sterilising children for too long. Your daughter is sadly uninformed and brainwashed by a very dangerous cult.

Leave children alone to grow up healthy!

WillIEverBeOk · 08/02/2025 09:38

Having worked for Education Queensland previously (primary school admin assistant) I can attest this would be true. Sadly its very captured. And, Marsden is a very low socio-economic area with housing commission homes (council houses) and a very high immigrant/refugee population.

GrammarTeacher · 08/02/2025 09:39

WillIEverBeOk · 08/02/2025 09:35

Osteoporosis at age 24 (twenty-four), liver tumours, decreased IQ, decreased spinal width, fecal and urinary incontinence as well as an inability to ever achieve orgasm if past Tanner Stage two is NOT 'care'.

Qld has been sterilising children for too long. Your daughter is sadly uninformed and brainwashed by a very dangerous cult.

Leave children alone to grow up healthy!

Do you also campaign to have children who prescribed puberty blockers for other reasons refused medication?

lady69 · 08/02/2025 09:43

Does she shit into a litter tray set in the corner of the classroom?

Assumimg not. Performative but only as far as they feel like it eh. Absolute loon, shouldn't be in a position of authority at any school ..

sometimesmovingforwards · 08/02/2025 09:43

Boiledbeetle · 08/02/2025 00:27

Daily mail version

Teacher who 'identifies as a cat' accused of hissing at students and licking back of their hands mol.im/a/14374055

I’m from a simpler age where this would have been labeled insanity.
A person saying they’re a cat!? Ok great, we noticed that one didn’t come back for lunch… just hang tight, there’s no danger but a van will be there shortly…

Whereas modern liberal bullshit means this specimen is currently a teacher of children 🤣🤣 It’s all so batshit mental you have to laugh about it. Our civilisation definitely peaked and is now on its downward curve. So just enjoy the ride for what it is eh!

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