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US executive order - Schools

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FlowchartRequired · 30/01/2025 09:35

Here we go, a new EO regarding schools.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/ending-radical-indoctrination-in-k-12-schooling/

"Ending Radical Indoctrination in K-12 Schooling
EXECUTIVE ORDER
January 29, 2025"

"Section 1. Purpose and Policy. Parents trust America’s schools to provide their children with a rigorous education and to instill a patriotic admiration for our incredible Nation and the values for which we stand.
In recent years, however, parents have witnessed schools indoctrinate their children in radical, anti-American ideologies while deliberately blocking parental oversight. Such an environment operates as an echo chamber, in which students are forced to accept these ideologies without question or critical examination. In many cases, innocent children are compelled to adopt identities as either victims or oppressors solely based on their skin color and other immutable characteristics. In other instances, young men and women are made to question whether they were born in the wrong body and whether to view their parents and their reality as enemies to be blamed. These practices not only erode critical thinking but also sow division, confusion, and distrust, which undermine the very foundations of personal identity and family unity."

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MarsScarlet · 01/02/2025 23:48

@Kucinghitam

I broadly agree with this, but also, hasn't the US been banging the drum of being superior to other countries and people for decades?

They have, but it seems now they have permission to step it up a notch.

MarsScarlet · 01/02/2025 23:56

@TempestTost

And they will think that based on the idea that there is something fundamentally great and important about foundational American values. Those being the things you see if their foundational documents "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal".

So it's not that it's just, we're so amazing, because - there is a strong link between living out, as a nation, certain principles, and their sense of themselves as great.

'All men are created equal' is a signifier of patriotism. When men become above others - above other nations - that's nationalism.

TempestTost · 02/02/2025 01:29

MarsScarlet · 01/02/2025 23:56

@TempestTost

And they will think that based on the idea that there is something fundamentally great and important about foundational American values. Those being the things you see if their foundational documents "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal".

So it's not that it's just, we're so amazing, because - there is a strong link between living out, as a nation, certain principles, and their sense of themselves as great.

'All men are created equal' is a signifier of patriotism. When men become above others - above other nations - that's nationalism.

"All men are created equal" doesn't just apply to Americans.

TempestTost · 02/02/2025 01:33

And I think you also have to look at what they are reacting against - it's stuff like the 1618 Project, and the whole I'd pol theory that it's fundamentally and irreparably a nation built on exploitation, and that American values are fundamentally bad.

Plus, among the university educated Democrat voting elite, they are deeply embarrassed by things like flag waving.

Besides, what else are you going to see taught in American schools other than American values? What instead, Russian values? America has always taken the melting pot approach.

MarsScarlet · 02/02/2025 02:15

@TempestTost

"All men are created equal" doesn't just apply to Americans.

I didn't say it did. Equality amongst peoples and nations is simply a common practice of patriotism.

In US schools, I'd expect US values and history to be taught - but obviously, not a whitewashed version.

DeanElderberry · 02/02/2025 09:42

Some of what is referred (not on this thread particularly, in general discourse) to as 'nationalism' is nations, and people of those nations, simply pointing out that they exist.

I think uncritical patriotism is a dangerous thing. Patriotism and nationalism can come with a healthy dose of 'how can we do it better?'.

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