New Executive Order: Protecting Children from Chemical and Surgical Mutilation

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Here we go…

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/protecting-children-from-chemical-and-surgical-mutilation/

What will be interesting will be how the insurance companies react. If insurance companies refuse to pay for gender reassignment (or related surgeries) and if they hugely increase the cost of medical malpractice insurance for doctors who practice gender reassignment, whether medical or surgical, that will undoubtedly have a chilling effect on the whole practice.

I think this is a shot across the bows of medical insurance companies and those who insure doctors and doctors themselves Britinme:

in consultation with the Congress, work to draft, propose, and promote legislation to enact a private right of action for children and the parents of children whose healthy body parts have been damaged by medical professionals practicing chemical and surgical mutilation, which should include a lengthy statute of limitations;

It is certainly going to focus a few minds.

I'm in love with the women (?) who wrote this.

But then Trump gets the credit, urgh

That was probably my favourite bit Gail

Someone named the writer - whoever she is, she’s not new to this area is she?! Impressive 😁

Not sure how it all works, but Hawley is putting forward legislation.

https://x.com/hawleymo/status/1884605993172017363?s=46&t=ZX_bLozRqm8etdGICMcAvA

https://www.hawley.senate.gov/hawley-renews-effort-to-protect-kids-from-mutilation-following-trump-executive-order/

It seems very impressive and comprehensive, and 'a lengthy statute of limitations' is an important feature.

It really is and I sincerely hope that gets through because it absolutely should. The people who have performed this horrendous harm on children need to be held fully accountable for their actions.

"It is likely to be challenged in court."

Ooh yes, yes please! Have at it, ACLU! I could do with a laugh at your abysmal advocacy, as the total lack of evidence as to any benefit is exposed ONCE MORE for the world to see.

We just need Jolyon Fox Batterer to join as special consultant to the ACLU and then it would be truly box office dynamite.

Love that.

#BeKind meets 'It's a bloke' 👏🤣

"Yeah that idiot Trump stopping gender affirming care is cruel. The EO is called what now??! "

Clearly hasn't been written by the Orange Toddler. Because it is very precisely written. Did you notice the really careful phraseology that makes it clear that this is not banning puberty blockers for precocious puberty (where, incidentally, they are used carefully and cautiously, after a lot of discussion of the pros and cons, under the supervision of a paediatric endocrinologist)

The long statute of limitations is ethical and fair when you're talking about medical experimentation alongside gaslighting and coercion of children. It will take years for the full medical impacts and the full psychological impacts to be realised, so it is right that the statute of limitations extends relatively far into adulthood.

And if this is really truly 'medical care' then why on earth would anyone oppose this? If genuinely in the child's best interest, based on robust research and a body of evidence similar to other childhood medical intervention, then surely the doctors doing it have got nothing to fear? This EO will only root out bad actors? Right? The TRA lobby should be WELCOMING this if they really care about gender questioning / trans children. Somehow they're not though, which tells you something about how much they care about children and also how much they truly believe in the surgeries and medication they are suggesting for children.

If he and his EO writers keep this up the whole industry built around this ideology will hopefully have collapsed before his term is done

The statute of limitations on medical harm has always seemed quite unethical to me. What if a drug used off label causes cancer but it takes 1 year (on average) beyond the statute of limitations for people to get that cancer and that evidence was available at the time of prescription.

Surely it should be about cause and effect not cause and effect within some arbitrary period of time.

But in the UK, at least, there is longer for actions whilst the patient is a child. The clock doesn't even start ticking until they turn 18...

No, obviously not written by him. But i give him credit for picking the right person to write it - it's absolutely barnstorming

I wouldn't think that presidents ever write these things?

I can't stand Trump but he's absolutely rightly onto this and onto the deportation of criminal illegal immigrants.

Also, a president that tries to overturn this EO, is basically saying they will reinstate chemical and surgical mutilation of children.

It really is 'back of the net'. Almost as if a once banned mumsnetter wrote it.

Is that what Lang’s been doing?

Yes exactly.

It reads as though people who spent the last decade+ swatting away the repetitive and predictable arguments of on-line fantasists knew exactly which points had to be squashed before they got out of their boxes.

What I can't understand is the inability of people even in the face of this so clearly worded EO to recognise they might be in an echo chamber themselves over the sterilisation of children. A lesbian I know, who's a psychologist, posted a meme on facebook about how Trump's going to start deporting minority groups. It makes no sense if you actually look at facts and not hysterical posturing.

The title of this EO is pretty clear and SURELY should give ANYONE who cares about child safeguarding some pause? What the fuck is wrong with people? That they put tribalism over children?

Even the Dutch protocol on which 'gender affirmation' medical treatment is based, had a child who DIED as a result of 'gender affirming' care - directly as a result of the operation to remove / invert a penis. IIRC that was recorded as a 'positive outcome' because the poor child initially expressed satisfaction at having the surgery - because obviously he'd been brainwashed by adults into thinking this was necessary and safe. Then he died in agony. Totally unnecessarily. It's clear as day child experimentation and abuse.

The rate of complications for this sort of surgery is horrendous and it's all horrifically on screen in the case of Jazz Jennings including the fact that if children are put on puberty blockers first then the surgery is less successful and more difficult. When I watch that show it's just jaw on the floor - the parents looking uncomfortable when they realise the doctors don't know what they're doing and it's experimentation - they even say they thought the doctors knew what they were doing... Then Jazz's Mum (at a hospital appointment) saying something along the lines of 'someone as young as Jazz shouldn't have this many health problems' well no shit sherlock. Why might that be... hmmm?

It's all there plain as day. Yet TRUMP'S in the wrong on this? He's never been more right. .

I've got to say, I swallowed the general UK media line about Trump, but my estimation of his intelligence and character has gone up enormously through reading the EOs which are well written, clear, humane and convincing.

At the very least he knows how to surround himself with the best people.