Girls can have short hair too campaign

[TeenToTwenties]

Football club unites to support girls with short hair - BBC News

Wouldn't have been needed back in the day when loads of girls had short hair.

Also wouldn't have been needed before boys started identifying as girls and being allowed into girls spaces.

This

I had no idea until recently that the whole 'pink princess' thing was so big these days. As some PP have mentioned, I thought all that was in the distant past. But it's donkey's years since I went into a toy-shop; I don't know anyone with young kids. I've got a school photo somewhere (which I just tried to turn up, and failed! 😀), but from memory, I'd say short hair was rather more common, say two-thirds to one third. What I did notice, comparing with school reunion pix on FB, is that many of the women (now in their 70s) still have exactly the same haircut they had a age 14.

I believe you can buy intensive hair treatments which keep it smooth for a long time.....and this needs to be repeated every few months.

Japanese players do not seem to have been subjected to the same cultural pressures to grow their hair long, and most of the players you name are Japanese. I think 'one per squad' is optimistic, I just had a quick look online and hardly saw any - cf the Lionnesses, all have the scraped-back-into-a-ponytail style.
Lina Hurtig - what an icon, I wish I could have her hairdresser's number

The gymnastics retrospective was interesting sashh, but when I see female gymnasts, most of them very young, the main things that stands out is the awful style of their leotards - fully covered arms, but just a scrap of fabric at the crotch - a magnet for photographers catching women gymnasts in certain predictable positions, which then get plastered all over the internet..😠

Sorry, I derailed from short hair!
I have had to find a barber willing to cut my short hair, ladies' hairdressers
[a] won't cut it as I wish and [b] charge three times as much as the barber to not cut my hair as I wish.

On the subject of advertising...we took our granddaughter into the A&E of the local children's hospital once and there was a TV in the waiting room. Rather than have it on CBBC or Cbeebies, they had a channel on which was non -stop advertising and crappy american shows.

I've now found a fabulous stylist who is really instinctive and talented and she cuts and styles short hair really well.....but the other stylists in her salon only do long hair styles and treatments. Crazy!

Clearly one main root of this problem is the possibility that there might actually be boys in the girls teams. Another is the increasing prevalent cultural expectation that girls should look “girly”.

Just wanted to say I think this is a great campaign. It’s so obvious and shouldn’t need pointing out, but clearly it does. And yes, campaigning against boys being allowed to play on girls teams is also v important but it’s fine to let them have this focus here, rather than saying “they should campaign for x instead”. Seems like they are entirely talking about girls playing, who have short hair.

It's hardly crazy. Hairdressing is a skill and hairdressers/barbers specialise in certain cuts and treatments just like people in any profession specialise in certain areas.

Yes, I understand very well that styling is a skill which is why i mentioned my stylist's instinct and talent.......but surely a really excellent stylist should be able to style at all lengths? She can.....but the others seem scared of short hair or certainly lack confidence with it.

I had though they'd been a shift back to normalcy.

When DD1 was at secondary all the girls had long hair - then older teens who cut short were apparently signalling they were lesbians.

DD2 younger by 4 years - they do have more range of hair styles - not all super long many above shoulders now thought haven't seen any really short ones.

It is depressing.

I did enjoy this - hairstyles though time on one woman.

We need to bring back short hair for girls... no political / gender motivation here... I'm just fucking sick of nits.

Sorry, I don't mean to derail this with a discussion of hairdressing economics (!) but you'd think at a time when salons are facing Cost of Living pressures, stylists would be encouraging clients towards shorter cuts that need more frequent trims. Unless the cost of treatments, etc, for longer hair balances it out... although most people I know buy hair products from Boots, etc.

How did we go backwards so fast? Actually I know the answer to my own question - TRAs and those that support their regressive stereotypes and teach them in school.

I get a dry cut every four weeks...to maintain my hair in its short style. It costs £26. The only time I get it washed and blow dried is when I occasionally have highlights put in.

I'm not sure what (if any) point I want to make, but these are my observations as a mother of a boy who has gone through the grassroots football ranks.

I take umbrage at the assumption that fielding a boy on a girls team gives that team an advantage. From about 9 or so many girls are larger, faster and stronger than many boys. It's a small window because obviously the boys catch up and overtake the girls, but a U10 or U12 girls team would probably do better w/o boys.

Many boys have long hair and have been mistaken for girls. I've watched games where a slight, long-haired boy has been mistaken for a girl and the lads have sometimes avoided being as physical. I'm talking once they get to 14 or 15 when some of the boys can be man sized.

That's fun. Shame she missed out the short cuts of the 80s and 90s, but not a bad overview.

From about 9 or so many girls are larger, faster and stronger than many boys. It's a small window because obviously the boys catch up and overtake the girls, but a U10 or U12 girls team would probably do better w/o boys.

Taller, perhaps, but I'm not sure about faster or stronger. I'd want to see data on that. And such window as there is only lasts about 2 years - it's no basis for general sport policy.

I didn't mention sports policy, just my observations - that's my data.

I was thinking this seeing the England teams play. When I was young a women's team would have a wild variety of hair lengths from buzz cut to long. And pretty much all the men had short hair. Now the men have the wild variety and the women all have matching ponytails. (Or they did in the match I happened to be watching at the time.)

Fashion I guess. I do wonder if the number of young women trying to signal gender by means of hair lengths has influenced that. (Maybe it influenced me to get around to that haircut I was thinking of too. Damned if trans ideology is going to have dibs on women with short hair! I've had very short hair at various ages from as young as I was able to ask but sometimes slack and grow it long for a bit.)

That was great, thanks for posting!

It's ridiculous that we have come to this. Remember the hoo ha when that gorgeous girl became Miss France because she had short hair.

The rank misogyny
that girls have to look like something out of Love Island
or they are boys
is SQUARELY down to the gender lobby

THe fact that schools and sporting bodies support it is vile.

It’s quite funny how fashions change, seems pretty much the norm for girls to have long hair now, back in the early to mid 70s when I was a teenager, it was very much the norm for girls to have short hair( at least where I was and looking back at old school photos from the time)How sad that there is a need to have the issue in Ops post in sport

It's really sad isn't it. We've gone so backwards. My dd 16 would love short hair, but says it's a social impossibility now, unless you want everyone querying if you're a lesbian, trans or what your pronouns are. Which she, unsurprisingly, doesn't. And also, @NoBinturongsHereMate, you haven't been keeping up at all. We've gone backwards from then.

My dd 16 would love short hair, but says it's a social impossibility now, unless you want everyone querying if you're a lesbian, trans or what your pronouns are.

ABSOLUTELY the case all over the country.
Its so sad that girls cannot dress how they choose any more