The Guardian, on Trump's EO re: gender ideology

[theilltemperedqueenofspacetime]

Did anyone else notice that the Guardian has at last caught up with this discussion, and supplied exactly the tropes one expected of them:
Sex is really complicated, too complicated for you plebs to comprehend.
Now we're all female, because early embryos are not yet morphologically sex-differentiated , ha ha ha!
If Trump is allowed to say male and female are different, it gives him carte blanche to take away female's rights, just like the Taliban.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jan/25/trump-executive-order-sex

It was the most read opinion piece this morning but not open for comments. Nor did they solicit letters for the letters page.

“People are terrified they’re going to be deliberately put in housing where their chances of being sexually assaulted are extremely high,” he said. “There is no question that as a result of this policy, there will be more rapes.”

How many rapes have there been while males have been held in women's prisons?

They really expect more rapes when the males are moved into the men's prisons?

Or do they mean 'more rapes of males' while ignoring any rapes of females?

Call me idealistic, but I'd say there shouldn't be any rapes, of males or of females.

Yep. I'm a HCP (X-ray) and I'm supposed to do that.

In my last job, NHS, the young female management (B7) staff were the rara squad for this nonsense. We, the people actually doing the job, were expected to not only ask drunk, hairy, bearded 6' truckers called Bruce if they were pregnant, we had to get both them and ourselves to sign for it, then scanned onto their record- then the following morning, 'checked' by those stupid little girls, willingly surrendering the rights their great grandmothers had fought for, as the rest of us destroyed our professional credibility AND risked a smacking from that drunk for insinuating they might be 'gay'.

The sober blokes were the ones who'd eye-roll with us.

An aside, I bet that even once this ridiculousness has been put to bed elsewhere, the NHS will continue to do this.

Yep. It has embarrassed HCPs, outraged, upset, confused, and offended patients.

I wonder if anyone will ever quantify the damage done by insisting men must be asked if they might be pregnant. To patients, to HCPs, to general societal relations and trust in institutions.

Can you imagine? Having to ask this dozens of times every day, and knowing the reaction is going to be stupid sexiest jokes, confusion, upset, you constantly have to say yes I know, but we have to ask, I'm sorry, no I don't think you're a woman, yes I understand.

Ffs.

I really think they have a deliberate blind spot. And sadly, who is going believe that a government disregarded women’s needs unless those traumatised women speak out. And we know that female prisoners are subject to more abuse if they raise their head in public.

Let’s face it - even when traumatised women speak out (or other women speak out fir them), women are still ignored.

Wemaybebetterstrangers

Indeed.

@Datun @DeanElderberry

The article completely misses to add some information on past attacks and abuses, separated by male / female /tm /tw, so that readers can have balanced information. There is only one group picked out, and of course they should not be attacked in prison, but neither should anyone else.

It would be interesting, too, to know how many people had surgery, because there will be in fact a problem with those tm who had a hyrestectomy and are under menopause age, they do need hormones, but they need female hormones. However, they've needed them before, too, but they took male hormones instead. This is one unhealthy mess, for sure. I hope that they would get normal healthcare (like any other inmate) and this could be addressed.

@DeanElderberry Wouldn't that cruel treatment of prisoners not fall under any international human rights law?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_the_United_States#Justice_system

I love and admire America, but some stuff has gone very wrong.

How the guardian editiors don't get neck pain from changing sides so quickly:

About women in UK prisons and their treatment and lack of care:
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/feb/05/basic-lack-of-decency-driving-self-harm-in-womens-prisons-report-says

not getting enough underwear, not enough washing water, no flexibility in when to call family...

vs:
Judge blocking EO to transfer TW prisoners to men's prisons:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/05/incarcerated-trans-women

That's not the same country, of course, but it is crazy to not see the opposites; and the judge's decision is only about potential harm to tw when transferred, while not saying a word about women, who have no decision rights on this. The tw prisoners don't need to "do" anything; their mere presence in a prison with women is not tolerable. The women have no spaces to themselves (once again).