German right wing extremist changes gender ‘to be transferred to female prison’

[Justme56]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14294183/German-right-wing-extremist-gender-female-prison.html

It will be interesting to see whether their legal system is as robust as they think- given the individual assessment that’s supposed to happen.
Shame that it takes a man like that though. The comments show the entire spectrum of madness.

I’d like to be a fly on the wall when the AntiFa/Anti-carceral/ACAB lot are trying square that circle!

(obvs it goes without saying that no male inmates should EVER be held in women’s jails regardless of crime committed or sincerity of their ladyfeelz)

I’m sure they’ll just say ‘women can be fascists too’ 🤷‍♀️

Once your starting position is ‘ a man is literally a woman on his say so’ everything else has to be forced to fit that. You are forced to deny reality, sense and safeguarding. This is one of the most extremist movements I have ever come across.

The Daily Mail article scrupulously avoids using he or she and is trolling with the caption under the last photo.

That didn't take long, did it? Barely 2 months since the self-id law was passed.

It's difficult to believe that there are really adult, presumably smart, people enacting these laws, and not wondering what they would do in this situation.

He's going to be another man who's 'at it', isn't he!

As was pointed out at the time, some men pretend to be women, and some men pretend to pretend to be women.

They're all at it.

But at least it's perfectly obvious why they want to go to a women's prison, there's method to their madness.

The people letting them, not so much

Oooh, GOODIE!
This will be fun to watch.

Entirely self-inflicted shit-show.

It's not like we didn't tell them what could happen.

Crap for German women, but hopefully this will prise open a few eyes.

"Despite the change of identity, it is reported that Liebich has not changed appearance and has an even longer beard"

😁 It seems he has become additionally mannish and this is the problematic bit because 🤔... it's the beards women are worried about?

Telegraph version:

www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/01/16/german-neo-nazi-changes-gender-so-he-can-go-womens-prison/

There's an archive version which opens fine for me but the link gets all messed up whenever I try to post it.

It’ll be interesting to see how the TWAW brigade turn themselves into pretzels trying to work out if they agree or disagree with this 🍿

https://archive.ph/nx9M7

German Twitter's a hoot atm. TRAs are busy arguing that yes, there are ways to gatekeep a law that's explicitly built on ruling out gatekeeping.

Highly entertaining community notes war about the true gender of the nazi in question.
https://x.com/gaborhalasz1/status/1880180986362941735

And in the meantime, apparently the culprit's webshop has expanded its offering to TWAW decals set in neonazi font 🤣🤣🤣🤣:
https://archive.ph/S8339

Oh and also - apparently the lovely Marla has been keeping busy reporting her critics to the authorities for misgendering.

Explodes the immature binary viewpoint beloved of the Guardian et al that gender critical thinking = right wing bad people, and gender believers = left wing good types 🤷‍♀️

Mind is boggling at TWAW in Nazi “font” 😵‍💫

I'm looking forward to Svenja's legal representatives asking to be shown exactly where in the German gender change legislation it says one is not allowed to change gender if one does not have the correct political views. Or if one is convicted of specific criminal offences but not others.

German press is waking up:

• https://www.zeit.de/gesellschaft/2025-01/selbstbestimmungsgesetz-rechtsextremist-marla-svenja-liebich-geschlechtseintrag#comments
• https://taz.de/Missbraeuchliche-Geschlechtsangleichung/!6062893/

and further articles in Bild, Spiegel, Süddeutsche , Deutschlandfunk (radio). Apparently the regional paper Mitteldeutsche Zeitung first reported it 3 days ago. The others took a while.

Waves below the line at Zeit-online, despite their moderation. "She is a woman, of course!" - "Well, told you so." "He's a Nazi, not a transwoman!" lol

Fridays for Future have spoken out on the matter:

https://x.com/FFFLeipzig/status/1879456886724104291

Original text: 'Die Einzigen, die das neue Selbstbestimmungsgesetz missbrauchen, um in Schutzräume von Frauen* einzudringen, sind rechtsextreme Männer, die sich vor der Strafverfolgung drücken wollen. Was eine Überraschung.'

That tranlates to: 'The only people who abuse the new self-determination law to invade women's shelters are right-wing extremist men who want to avoid prosecution. What a surprise.'

I think it is extremely stupid naive to think that only right-wing extremist men will exploit this law about self identity.

How do you "abuse" a self-determination law by self-determining?

🤔

That tranlates to: 'The only people who abuse the new self-determination law to invade women's shelters are right-wing extremist men who want to avoid prosecution. What a surprise.'

I’m shocked, how very dare they suggest Marla Svenja is not a ladeeeee.

Morons, this is self ID. If only they’d listened to the boring, cunty kind of women they might not be in this mess.

The Tamsin Robinson comment on the article made me snort.

Exactly.

That tranlates to: 'The only people who abuse the new self-determination law to invade women's shelters are right-wing extremist men who want to avoid prosecution. What a surprise.'

Do they mean "the only one we know of" or "the only one the public knows about"?

Does Schutzräume just mean 'shelters' or does it have a wider meaning? Because in this case we're talking about prisons.

Do they mean "the only one we know of" or "the only one the public knows about"?

The only ones we actually notice and care about?

Yes, Schutzraeume means shelters, or safe spaces.