Taliban: NGOs employing women will be banned & building should not have windows that women can be seen

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In the latest crackdown on women’s rights in Afghanistan, the Taliban have announced they will no longer allow any national or foreign NGOs that employ women to operate in the country. In a letter published on social platform X on Sunday night, the Economy Ministry said NGOs that do not comply with the new rule will lose their licenses to operate.
Full article https://www.france24.com/en/asia-pacific/20241230-ngos-employ-afghan-women-face-closure-new-taliban-rule

Afghanistan's Taliban leader has ordered that new residential buildings are constructed without windows looking onto "places usually used by women" and said that existing windows with such views should be blocked to prevent "obscene acts".
Full article https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20241229-taliban-leader-bans-windows-overlooking-women-s-areas

It's hard to know how to respond to such hatred and oppression of women. Not allowed a kitchen window in case a man sees them inside. Not allowed to talk out loud in case a man hears. No learning no jobs no way to earn an income. Despicable

I have deep hate in my heart for the men who come up with these despicable punishments. But even if I could attempt to articulate the POV of the men in charge (the ones raping the women so more boys come up through the ranks), in what way is it smart to keep treating your broodmares so poorly that you risk breeding more misogynistic men, as that seems to be their goal, yes? Vitamin D deficiency and lack of maternal health care doesn't promote a booming fertility economy.

It’s just beyond sickening. Those poor women, breaks my heart for them.

So grotesque, this oppression, this complete squashing of women into dark silent corners, just to be used as uteruses, cooks and housemaids.

Impossible to understand that psychology and hatred. Often hatred is rooted in fear…

Could it be about re-directing anger toward Western occupiers onto women whose rights Westerners value and progressed because the Taliban can’t target and abuse who they really hate? (Ie classic insecure bully MO)

I’ve seen it explained by men and women with experience of living in Afghanistan that the attitude behind this extremism is a medieval attitude towards life and the world. So no evidence of this extremism causing medical or psychological harm to women would be accepted or valued by the men of the Taliban, nor would an argument that women deserve to be treated as equals or even just as human beings with their own rights and dignity. It’s also a mindset that is all about how if a man is dedicated to being religiously observant in life then he will be happy for eternity in heaven and so it doesn’t care particularly what happens to people on a practical level in real everyday life, that stuff is all god’s will as to what happens.

It’s despicable and depressing and I don’t understand why Western governments aren’t doing more to stand up for Afghani women.

The problem is that even boycotts won't work. Their major trading partners don't care, and that they produce isn't important. Their GDP is tanking and they don't give a shit.

Oh and heroin, not known for its ethical consumers.

It is a mistake to think that western governments care about women. The expression of misogyny is just different.

Crackpot bastards
There's got to be something wrong with the fucker who dreamt that one up.

Islamist's fear of females.
The roots of gynophobic misogyny among the Taliban and Islamic state -

media.defense.gov/2022/Jan/06/2002918533/-1/-1/1/JIPA%20-%20ALVI%20-%2022.PDF

What can we boycott, or encourage the boycotting of? Cricket is the obvious one, and the ICC should be put under pressure, but are there others?

Is there any hope that the Trump government will put pressure on? Biden betrayed west-friendly Afghans, men and women, and the Taliban saw him as weak. Might a change in president bring a change in attitudes?

Any sport. But beyond that, I really don't know.

I absolutely think they should - and Janice Turner wrote an excellent column a few months back on this very subject. https://www.thetimes.com/comment/columnists/article/time-to-confront-talibans-gender-apartheid-l538dw5n2

When are our governments and sports authorities going to recognise that this is apartheid and mete out the same treatment they did to South Africa in the 80s? I love sport and the rise of the Afganistan men’s cricket team has been one of the highlights of the international game recently. I’m sure their success is one of the few bright spots about living in that country, where there has been so much war and suffering. But I don’t see how England can, in good conscience, continue to play them. I wonder if there’s a way we could put pressure on the ECB?

It's truly shameful and horrific. Agree boycotting the Afghan men's cricket team is one of the few things that can be done.
And donating to whatever NGOs are able to operate and support women - although with these new restrictions I don't know how any can work.

I can't fathom why men dream up these barbaric rules and laws - surely these men are sons and fathers? Are they happy to see their mothers and daughters treated like this?
As regards what can we do? I'm not sure - there's a reason Afghanistan is known as the graveyard of empires. For me, bringing change has to start with the Afghanis themselves. I don't think that will happen anytime soon due to geography and clan loyalty. In the meantime life will get worse for women alongside higher infant mortality and poor maternal care.

I am horrified at what is happening in Afghanistan and wish I could do something. I am also furious at Western governments for their lack of action.
I do recognise that some actions might only have minimal impact but I feel strongly that we should try. I just did a quick search for a cricket boycott and found a petition but with only a few signatures.

What action exactly do you want Western governments to take? Re-invade? There’s no trade to boycott, no carrots to dangle. Their biggest trade partner by far is Iran.

I might be really out of step but I don't think the Taliban care about cricket. Is cricket one of the only pleasures Afghanis get? To compete as equals on the world stage? Is cricket one of the only things than unites the people - they are all routing for 'their' team?

According to this, Afghanistan is not eligible to be an ICC member because of their lack of a women's pathway:

x.com/worldcuptour/status/1874034656661954950?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

daveward.substack.com/p/an-open-letter-to-the-international

Also:

x.com/worldcuptour/status/1873687730171060414?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

x.com/worldcuptour/status/1873687983527793132?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

x.com/worldcuptour/status/1873688441202045157?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

I believe the men in charge send their daughters abroad for schooling.

Not one western country will stand up to these [redacted] men. They banned women from a UN meeting and the UN said 'sure'.

I am certainly not suggesting invading. But I would like us to stand up for women in some way eg cricket boycott as suggested in the article above. Also I don’t think we should be agreeing to have meetings like this where we exclude women and don’t talk about women’s rights: www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crgk02g5ezdo.amp

Is this what men inevitably turn into when they are given free reign?

Also I don’t think we should be agreeing to have meetings like this where we exclude women and don’t talk about women’s rights: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crgk02g5ezdo.ampp^

I agree.

Women are literally brood mares to these vile so called men.
Cook, clean, childcare. Don’t be seen. Don’t be heard. Their lives are not worth living but I guess their love for their children and a faint hope of a better future is all they have to keep going.
The taliban are utterly vile and disgusting, narrow minded and too stupid to see that the oppression of women actually downgrades their own life experience.
Whilst they need educating I just want to bash them round their stupid heads and chuck them in a windowless cell while the women rise to their potential. Then they could be allowed out to contribute in a meaningful way to society. If they cant or wont then back into the cell
Sorry for ranting. I could weep at their atrocious behaviour and ignorance.

Afghanistan is hardly a great sporting nation, I doubt sport boycotts would have any effect at all.

The West would need to hit them hard economically and punish countries that continue to trade with them, of course this would lead to widespread suffering but I can't see the Taliban being moved by minor gestures.

Anyway the West/ROW aren't going to do anything. As that BBC link shows, they can't even make the Taliban accept mixed sex international meetings!

The only country that does any substantive trade with them is Iran - hardly a country that the West has any leverage with.