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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Independent runs an article saying men in women's changing rooms are bad

37 replies

fromorbit · 15/12/2024 21:02

Apparently this is serious now.

A man walked in on me in a changing room – but what happened next was even more shocking
Women are often told to shrug things off but this type of behaviour rarely happens in isolation, writes Olivia Petter. If we don’t take it more seriously, who knows where it may lead?

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/selfridges-womens-changing-room-sexual-harassment-b2663967.html

Isn't it fine if the man is wearing a dress though? I am confused.

A man walked into my changing room – but what happened next was even more shocking

Women are often told to shrug things off but this type of behaviour rarely happens in isolation, writes Olivia Petter. If we don’t take it more seriously, who knows where it may lead?

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/selfridges-womens-changing-room-sexual-harassment-b2663967.html

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RockaLock · 16/12/2024 10:21

She is an idiot, but it is heartening to read the comments.

Maybe she will actually read them and take note, although it is far more likely that she will dismiss them as the ravings of transphobic bigots.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/12/2024 10:24

I've come across her "journalism" before and I can't remember in what context.

lcakethereforeIam · 16/12/2024 10:31

I can't remember the last time I wore a skirt or a dress...or make-up (note to self, ask nephew when he got married). I think I've been using the wrong changing rooms for years!

Was it Selfridges in Manchester? It could've been me! Though short sighted rather than lecherous 😬I hope I've not got resting perve faceXmas Blush

RoyalCorgi · 16/12/2024 11:32

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/12/2024 10:24

I've come across her "journalism" before and I can't remember in what context.

No Way What GIF by mtv

According to her bio: "Olivia Petter is a freelance journalist who specialises in relationships, fashion, pop culture, and violence against women."

ArabellaScott · 16/12/2024 11:35

Sounds like a disturbing and frightening experience.

And its 100% terfy to say so.

Chrysanthemum5 · 16/12/2024 11:37

I do hope Olivia isn't basing her assertion that it was a cis man on whether the individual was performing femininity to Olivia's standards? Because that would be shockingly transphobic

SootherSue · 16/12/2024 11:53

Why was everyone so blasé and unhelpful, she wonders.

Probably because they've been trained to accept that anyone can be a woman even with full beard, men's clothes, intact tackle, no hormones and no dysphoria. And that to confront such a person is considered bigoted and could result in dismissal and public vilification. So, now even a regular man gets into the changing rooms undetected, because you never know and playing hero might blow up in your face. Reality is just too costly and inconvenient to enforce for anyone who wants to keep their job.

SinnerBoy · 16/12/2024 12:05

Best and most comprehensive response on that Twatter thread:

https://x.com/ukvillafan/status/1868400965852000724

x.com

https://x.com/ukvillafan/status/1868400965852000724

MrsOvertonsWindow · 16/12/2024 12:10

SinnerBoy · 16/12/2024 12:05

Best and most comprehensive response on that Twatter thread:

https://x.com/ukvillafan/status/1868400965852000724

It seems as if Olivia is being outed as what's called "a useful idiot"?

NPET · 16/12/2024 12:35

GCITC · 16/12/2024 00:42

The mental gymnastics are olympic medal worthy

Yes it does seem to be a case of "if it happens to me, it's disgusting - if it happens to any other woman, then I support the man"!

Hairyesterdaygonetoday · 16/12/2024 14:24

Mummyoflittledragon · 16/12/2024 02:42

How did she know this unless she asked him? And it reads as though she didn’t.

I was about to ask the same thing! She’s either just guessing, and taking the risk of causing him serious injury by misgendering, or she asked him. How very transphobic!

quantumbutterfly · 16/12/2024 14:40

SinnerBoy · 16/12/2024 12:05

Best and most comprehensive response on that Twatter thread:

https://x.com/ukvillafan/status/1868400965852000724

That is perfectly expressed.

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