Is India Willoughby the most stupid anti-semite ever?

[unclebuck]

https://x.com/IndiaWilloughby/status/1864708377919488330

Just unbelievable.

It’s perfectly possible to be critical of Israel and also think it ludicrously paranoid and antisemitic that India thinks Israel is poising L’l OJ.

@SensibleSigma yes, it really is. India is doing the meme, as someone on the thread says.

One would think that the deathly effective Mossad would be able to inflict more than a mild tummy ache if it really wanted to.

Either a lot of people will be eating hats, or OJ will be just fine and this was just a testerical show of anti-semitism.

Pretty Anti-Semitic to imply that somebody (Jews, basically) have attempted to murder the whiny little twonk, though.

Shorter version: is India Willoughby the most stupid...?

Yes.

India is an equal opportunities idiot. Every cause there is, India is idioting all over it.

It's stupid but it's not antisemitic. The government of Israel (and it's secret service) can and should be separated from the Jewish people and Judaism more generally.

For example, of I said "I just love what the Israeli state is doing in Gaza, I think it's fantastic for the world and totally justified" then followed that up with offensive stereotypes about Jewish people I would absolutely be guilty of antisemitism on the latter count. So clearly the inverse is possible - to criticise the actions of Israeli state without more broadly holding derogatory prejudiced views about Jewish people.

This applies even if the criticism of Israel is unfounded or dumb. Eg if I said "I think President Macron is sneaking into my garden at night to piss on my roses" I might be unhinged but in and of itself it doesn't suggest Francophobia*

*Of course such a delusion could exist in the context of being generally prejudiced against the French just as IW might be antisemitic, just this particular example isn't antisemitic, IMO.

Yep, its just India being stupid. Again. that notional cervix must be doing the thinking here. LOJ, while many things, isn't antisemitic, and I don't think India is either, India just forgot to think before India typed. As ever.

Or maybe it's both.

The Mossad isn't know for inflicting belly-aches on people who mildly disagree with Israeli politics.

They mostly go after nazis and are able to inflict more than a bit of hartburn.

IW thrives on these re-posts, because twitter is their only outlet. I avoid twitter for that reason (the writers/journalists etc I followed on twitter barely posted; they were too busy being employed).

This applies even if the criticism of Israel is unfounded or dumb. Eg if I said "I think President Macron is sneaking into my garden at night to piss on my roses" I might be unhinged but in and of itself it doesn't suggest Francophobia*

But India didn’t say an individual (Netanyahu/ Macron), he said a collective county (Israel/France). So by your own example, it would be like saying ‘I think the French are sneaking into my garden at night to piss on my roses’ which does certainly suggest an issue with the French.

At any rate, IW is a raving racist. He’s has history of being racist to individuals, very anti-immigration and of course, homophobic to boot. To suggest is criticising the attack Gaza (which has nothing to do with LoJ’s heartburn) instead of being anti-Semitic is a stretch by any means.

And certainly I think you can be critical of Israel but I wouldn’t for a second assume that criticism comes from the same place as IW.

You can also be critical of Israel without making accusations of genocide.

But this is not the thread for a row about that.

@CountZacular

Yes you're right there's a difference between Macron and the French, but likewise there's a difference between saying "because of your coverage of Israel" and "by the Jews".

However I do apologise because I basically know nothing about IW or their previous comments, so I can understand if they generally make a bunch of antisemitic remarks then this can be viewed as an extension of that in context.

Owen Jones is a TWAW misogynist who opposes women defending their rights.

That is a feminist issue.

#Be kind to rocking horses

IW constantly complains about Musk and X yet pays Musk to use X 😕

Stupid is as stupid does.

😱 🙀🤰

Err I'm gonna guess at they are being absolutely serious here?

Am I right?

His indigestion isn't a feminist issue.

The thing is, the French and the Israelis are not the same in this respect, because historically the French have not been discriminated against (or indeed, massacred) on the basis that they are shadowy conspiracy figures, unlike the Jews. Now obviously you can’t tell whether IW has imbibed some of that old anti-semitism or whether the conspiracy theory thing has come out of nowhere. Imo these prejudices usually percolate through the culture and people aren’t even aware of them.

I’m just surprised that India isn’t blaming terfs.

The IDF has killed many journalists in Gaza. It is not as though they don’t kill journalists, even if it is absurd to think they’d bother with OJ. The IDF kills those who can give first hand accounts from Gaza.

It doesn't mean they're operating a covert squad purely tasked with causing post-prandial discomfort to particularly irritating little twerps through the medium of a pot of Actimel on the turn.

Despite what India might want to believe, the Jews aren't out to get OJ. He just needed to take some Gaviscon.

This is tangential. We’re not talking about killing journalists per se, we’re talking about sinister conspiracy theories and when they are rooted in anti-semitism.

I am surmising though that IW’s remark to IJ was not anti -Semitic in that it was not against Jewish people in general, but against the IDF/the Israeli government in particular in their war in Gaza, with IW wildly extrapolating that as a result of OJ’s inflammatory articles about the war, like this

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/17/northern-gaza-israel-depraved-campaign,

the IDF might want him gone.

If IW is always going on about Jews in general being responsible for everything wrong, it would be different - is IW generally like this ?
If not, this seems possibly to be more about IW jumping to the wrong conclusion re the violent IDF.