Caitlin Moran - no more sold out gigs?

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Saw in Popbitch (so it may be complete bollocks) that Caitlin 'Voice of Modern Womanhood" Moran is having trouble selling out her public events.

"Weekly seat filler update: Using the service to fill out their gigs this week... Caitlin Moran (in discussion with Alex James)"

It is almost as if the kind of women who would buy tickets to her events are not massively impressed by her seeming inability to say that maybe locking up male sex offenders with vulnerable women is not the best idea.

Years ago I would have loved to go see her talk. I really enjoyed 'How to Be a Woman', and rated her as a columnist. But I now actively avoid her. And even though I have a subscription of The Times I never read her now.

This exactly. Glinner said he wouldn't expect eg Reeves and Mortimer to speak up , it's just not their thing. But writers and comedians whose whole shtick is politics....well they've no excuse.

Which episode of the podcast are you all referring to?

I have never liked her work tbh. We too have a Times subscription and I won't read her column. I find her as smug and annoying as Zoe Williams. Do you remember when her husband wrote a furious article about not being allowed into the ladies changing room at swimming with their daughters, who were about 5 at the time? People like them live in some alternative world.

This. She never appealed to me at all, but I agree that, given her chosen subject matter, her attitude over this is very disappointing.

Surprised Popbitch printed something negative about her. She was always on the PB board back in the day and treated like royalty by people who knew who she was.

I don’t get the adulation and accolades that this nobody gets. I do not rate her writing and I don’t care about her opinions. Never have.

Whether it's the "I'm mad me" gurning or saying she sent her kids to a private school because she couldn't get them in at a state school, Caitlin "Did you know I was brought up on a council estate in Wolverhampton" Moran is as genuine as a two bob note. She's always had too much time on her hands.

I see she's doing an event in February in Manchester - just her - at a venue that has capacity for a relatively small number of (800). There's still tickets available.

I thought she was rather opposed to private school.

Not when it comes to her kids:

https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/alastair-campbell-interviews-caitlin-moran

I think I remember her posts on MN. They were witty and astute in the way that quite a few MNers were in those days, but I always got the impression that her journalism was essentially an over-development of her MN posting style.
It seemed crazy that she got so much kudos for so long. Funny paragraphs on a forum, rapidly crafted to to fit the vibe of "look at the words I just dashed off quickly with one hand while breastfeeding my baby" aren't really a substitute for genuinely insightful writing.

I would argue that lots of posters back in the early dial up days were fast moving, astute and witty.
It was women with access to the internet who were twisting the traditional attitudes to motherhood in an anonymous arena. Lots lurked because the standards of grammar and comedy were high. She was n't unusual.

I'm glad that it isn't just me who thinks that! CM reminds me of the desperate to be cool,clever girls the awful comprehensive school we attended.

Moran is always things to all men.

A recent column was all about hedgehogs and how she used to rescue them from cattle grids and how dreadful it is that their habitat is being destroyed.

Next week’s was how her local beauty spot was being destroyed for housing but this is ok as the kids need somewhere to live.

Like I said, keeping all options open while not dating to say anything faintly controversial

My dear father used to describe his grandparenting style as 'never being in the same room as an unpopular decision'.

He didn't make a career out of it, though.

I have never understood to love for CM her book How to be a Woman was just tiresome after the first chapters

She has always tried too hard to appear that she isn’t trying hard at all but as pp she has worked hard to cultivate this persona

He sounds lovely! And very honest.

👍👍👍👍👍

She has morphed into the female Adrian Chiles.

Meh. Well she has always annoyed the living crap out of me. Same goes for her waffly-feminist-lite books pretending to have discovered feminist thought. Her refusal to enter into this discussion simply confirms my irritation 🤷🏻‍♀️

Neither of them kept it off.

I quite liked India’s book on shopping, she’s a good evocative writer but another one with hobby opinions she can’t live up to.

TRIH is one of the best podcasts out there and Dominic Sandbrook seems to have no truck with identity politics, thank goodness.

I also recommend his books about the social and political history of the 50s onwards (Never Had It So Good, White Heat, State of Emergency, Seasons in the Sun and Who Dares Wins). They are massive but they go into so much detail and are very well written.

My favourite show - and I note that despite his 'weedy lefty Guardianista' caricature persona (against the Sandbrook 'red meat and the Telegraph' counterpoint) has also said nice things about JKR, thrown the odd bit of shade on biology deniers and generally not contradicted DS.

A massive relief, after the utter disappointment of TRIP.

I suspect that her being an 'autodidact' and having little or no formal education has resulted in her being something of a one trick pony?

I dunno. I can think of some very expensively educated non-thinkers and some self-taught people who've stayed curious.

I thought Raised by Wolves was pretty funny. I have no view beyond that.