Man Argues That Women Have No Right to Privacy in Changing Rooms

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A few months ago a teacher filmed a great conversation with his student, debating whether or not JK Rowling is transphobic, and it was very enlightening. He has a new video up where he discusses women's rights with a man who is a Democrat voter.

I swear to god that 'Democrat' man goes all around the houses and overcomplicates the issues to get out of saying that males shouldn't be allowed to use women's spaces or to compete in women's sports.

It's almost like this man doesn't see women as beings worthy of respect.

Agreed; the Communist Party in the UK is very much materialist feminist and supports the women in these fights for protecting rights.

But I don’t know where the American equivalent of our Communist Party stands on this issue (from what I’ve seen of very Leftwing socialist voters in the US they are even more into identity politics and queer theory) and it’s this sexist attitude of Americans Left that the video is addressing.

Sadly, Blair White supports women only up to the point where what he wants to do is hampered by women’s rights - in this stance, he’s no different to various ‘rational trans’ commentators we have here in the UK who publicly state that they support women’s single-sex spaces but it always turns out that they want an exception to enter women’s spaces because they’re ‘Not Like Other Trans’.

Edited to add that Andrew Gold is no different to other pundits like Ben Shapiro and Joe Rogan who all seem to believe that because, to them, White looks sufficiently like a woman then White should be allowed to access women’s spaces - they’re not thinking about the effect it has on women to have men in their spaces and they’re not thinking that White is the wedge in the door that other men will use to gain access to women’s spaces and to the definition of woman.

MRAs always think they have the right to walk in on women in dressing rooms. Ones like this guy and ones like Donald Trump.

Womens dignity, autonomy and privacy means nothing to them.

I think US liberty is indeed positive freedom, the freedom 'to do/act' as you wish. Rugged individualism is a symptom of that view point as is the demand that you don't 'tread on me'. Negative freedoms are more to do with not being subject to harms: negative freedoms are from hunger, idleness, want, disease, ignorance etc (sometimes called the five freedoms) and abuse. This idea of freedom seems mostly absent in US libertarianism. It's more freedom to dine at the Ritz (if you can afford to) rather than freedom from hunger.

Unbelievable to hear him defend a man exposing his penis to a child.

People who believe in gender identity ideology or defend it have conveniently 'forgotten' that men who crossdress and go into womens' single sex spaces are not there for good and pure reasons.

Part 2.

It's that old saying - right wing men see women as private property, left wing men see women as public property.

@TheAutopsyOfMNCorpus thank you, that lays it out so clearly.

@IwantToRetire "the man being questioned by the teacher is:

• totally unable to understand that women might have rights - his brain just freezes - he just cant grasp that as being a fact

...

"this isn't always about genuine sympathy or empathy for trans people. This is about have the believe that women have no value, they have no rights, they lack logic, and should be ignored or if they persist, ridiculed."

Exactly that. Trying to reason (we're always told to calmly reason with people like that) with someone who understands women as a form of dogs or, in some cases, livestock, is not going to work.

Women are service animals in their world. If those people were capable of more than motivated reasoning, they never would have fallen into such a massive category error in the first place.

(Enough social power for women - money, enforced laws for women's rights - makes those people irrelevant eventually, but you'll notice that's what they really really really try to prevent.)

They seem to go silent when you ask them if they would be happy for these transwomen to see their own wife and small daughter naked and to expose 'her'self to them.

I had a discussion with one on reddit who couldn't actually argue with the very polite way I phrased it or the point I was making, demanding proof of the study statistics I was quoting and when given it, eventually pretended to be leaving on holiday to get out of the conversation 😂

That must have been tiresome for you but at least other people on the subreddit would have been watching the discussion so you raised thoughts in other people's minds.

Exactly!

And, as I ofthen say, this isn't always about genuine sympathy or empathy for trans people. This is about have the believe that women have no value, they have no rights, they lack logic, and should be ignored or if they persist, ridiculed.

@IwantToRetire your description here is a perfect encapsulation of men like Alaistair Campbell: his behaviour this week, upon learning that voters do not agree with gender identity ideology, has been exemplary ‘Righteous Man’ & professional management class comportment. He’s going to give himself a scoffing injury if he continues to scoff at women’s concerns and objections this intensely.

a scoffing injury

🤣🤣🤣

Sadly it was via PM. He/She was a moderator and would not allow discussion on the main board. Says it all really doesn't it?

Standard for Reddit. It's a misogynistic cesspit. Mainly it's useful for seeing auto ginny files mask-off.

I know this isn’t an original sentiment to express but bloody hell, Reddit is the pits when it comes to women’s rights.

Apparently it's transphobic to say that you don't support trans ideology as it goes against your personal beliefs.

When it comes to the OTT beliefs of certain sections of Reddit this meme is applicable:

https://img.memegenerator.net/instances/600x600/85496458.jpg