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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Joe Rogan interview with JD Vance

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RadicalisedPastThePointOfSalvation · 01/11/2024 10:41

https://x.com/BlanchardPhD/status/1852088413182218355

It’s a very short clip and I haven’t listened to the interview yet but Joe Rogan mentions Malaga Airport. JR has a big listenership and both Trump and Vance have now appeared on the podcast.

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https://x.com/BlanchardPhD/status/1852088413182218355

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 01/11/2024 16:56

Ah ok, thanks!

nauticant · 01/11/2024 17:26

Trying to get to the bottom of Kamala Harris's position on gender identity ideology is hard work based on what people are saying now. There's so much spin and disinformation that anyone will struggle to work out what the facts are.

To get a clearer picture, you have to go back to reporting that's much closer to the events in question:

https://www.washingtonblade.com/2019/11/20/despite-harris-deal-few-surgeries-granted-to-trans-inmates-in-california/

For example:

“I was, as you are rightly pointing out, the attorney general of California for two terms and I had a host of clients that I was obligated to defend and represent and I couldn’t fire my clients, and there are unfortunately situations that occurred where my clients took positions that were contrary to my beliefs,” Harris said.

Harris's beliefs there were that gender reassignment surgery should be open to transwomen in prison. So what did Harris do about the conflict?

“I did it quietly, because I actually disagreed with my client initially, when they had the policy, and so I did it behind the scenes,” Harris told the Los Angeles Blade. “I helped to resolve and change the policy. The issue for me was to make sure the right thing would happen.”

As a result of Harris's changes, the policy became much more open to gender reassignment surgery being available to transwomen in prisons in California:

“I made sure that they changed the policy in the state of California so that every transgender inmate in the prison system would have access to the medical care that they desired and need,” Harris said. “I know it was historic in California, but I believe, actually, it may have been one of the first if not the first in the country where I pushed for that policy in a Department of Corrections.”

This was one consequence:

“Members of the LGBT community, especially those who are transgender, are too often subjected to discrimination and forced to live on the margins of our society,” Harris said at the time. “In a groundbreaking settlement, the California Department of Corrections & Rehabilitation has agreed to evaluate and provide sex-reassignment surgery if recommended to Shiloh Quine, a transgender inmate. This is an important step forward in the ongoing effort to protect transgender rights in California.”

UtopiaPlanitia · 01/11/2024 18:01

It’s just occurred to me, as I’m watching the rest of this video, that Rogan has done a better job than professional political journalists of letting viewers get a feel for the personality, beliefs and ideology of the candidates that he’s interviewed.

He chats to them live for over 3 hours each which means they can’t be edited, or get assistance from SPADS, and he doesn’t give them control over the questions so as well as political topics they cover other issues as well.

I felt the same for the Mumsnet interviews this week with the two candidates for the Conservative party leadership, I got a better sense of them as people and whether I’d want to vote for them or not. Whereas with the recent election campaign I felt most of the politicians were robotically on message with repetitive soundbites (even on talk shows) and I didn’t get a decent feeling of what any of them were like as people.

TrumptonsFireEngine · 01/11/2024 18:04

We have the potential vice president of the US discussing Autogynaephilia in public during and election campaign. I think that means we must be able to talk about how men get sexually aroused by thinking of themselves as women, using women’s spaces, and forcing others to pretend they are women without having to use coy phrases like ‘Malaga airport’!

ResisterOfTwaddleRex · 01/11/2024 18:07

We've definitely used AGP on MN before. I wasn't sure if anything had changed back though.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4726257-nick-timothy-in-the-telegraph-on-the-grr?page=1

TrumptonsFireEngine · 01/11/2024 18:18

biscuitandcake · 01/11/2024 13:40

Its weird that its the prison surgery angle they are going for. Maybe because its a tax dollars being spent issue which makes sense. But it isn't really mine or (all UK) other GC people's I know biggest objection to the whole trans thing. Some could even argue back that if sexually aggressive prisoners want to castrate themselves that's a good thing.

Castration (and chemical castration using ‘puberty blockers’) has been found to not reduce sexual offending but rather make their attacks much more violent.

biscuitandcake · 01/11/2024 18:35

TrumptonsFireEngine · 01/11/2024 18:18

Castration (and chemical castration using ‘puberty blockers’) has been found to not reduce sexual offending but rather make their attacks much more violent.

I know! I just think "illegal immigrants are committing crimes in America and then they go to prison and get their balls cut of " makes Kampala Harris looks kind of based if anything

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