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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Law & Order: SVU at it again…

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NitroNine · 29/10/2024 20:50

Season 24 is currently showing on terrestrial television in the UK, & Episode 8, A Better Person, is so overstuffed with TRA tropes it’s practically a parody. As previously discussed, SVU has been preaching to its audience about this for years.

In this episode, we have not one but TWO trans victims, the first murdered, the second fights off their attacker, so that the Court can be told trans people are attacked/raped/murdered more often & generally more vulnerable (than who?!). Evil Defence Attorney also (Evilly) suggests that the victim might retain [some of] their wrestling skills & knowledge, which we all know is impossible because “completely different physiology” & they were “a different person then”. This episode first aired in the US in mid-November 2022.

The murder victim had divorced parents who disagreed about their transition, one of whom endangered the prosecution of their murderer by hiding the fact of their gender ID & destroying evidence. The other was BFFs with their child (who told them everything) & spoke to them every night, encouraged them to “live their truth” & generally contrasted with parent one. Victim two had been totally rejected by their parents.

Victim One came out to their, er, actual best friend just before being murdered. He didn’t take it well, but showed “appropriate” levels of self-loathing on hearing the news of the murder 🙄

The reviews are interesting, especially the featured one that gave the episode 2/10:
Let's try this again
So my first review was deleted. I'm pretty sure I didn't break any of the rules. I've been watching SVU since it began in the 90s, on and off. After a great beginning it's had ups and downs over the years. There was a period of time in the 00s when it was too graphic. Some of the plots got recycled. But I kept watching it because it was so female-centric. Don't get me wrong; I love Ice-T and I loved Chris Meloni as Elliot Stabler, and Raul Esparza and even the Mayhem guy in the beginning. But even before Mariska Hargitay became the unequivocal star and Rollins became a regular the show was always feminist. It informed viewers and spoke up for victims. Unfortunately the show seems to have gone off the rails. This episode and one or two others have shown that it is no longer a feminist show. Thus I have stopped watching it for good.

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NoBinturongsHereMate · 29/10/2024 21:34

Evil Defence Attorney also (Evilly) suggests that the victim might retain [some of] their wrestling skills & knowledge, which we all know is impossible because “completely different physiology” & they were “a different person then”.

So transition now comes with a memory wipe as well as complete anatomical reset?

RethinkingLife · 29/10/2024 22:01

Updated version of tabula rasa or what it means to be born again?

spannasaurus · 30/10/2024 11:40

Evil Defence Attorney also (Evilly) suggests that the victim might retain [some of] their wrestling skills & knowledge, which we all know is impossible because “completely different physiology” & they were “a different person then”
But haven't they always been a woman so that would mean that they were a woman when they were wresting even if they were,at the time, pretending to be a man to the rest of the world.

NoBinturongsHereMate · 30/10/2024 12:12

Yes!

Or possibly, No!

Definitely one of those. Whichever fits the argument at the time.

SerendipityJane · 30/10/2024 14:10

Surprised it's still going. I lost interest when every episode seemed to be about an SVU member (12 years ago ?). Not long after every CSI episode seemed to be "CSI member in peril".

I occasionally see references to L&O in US legal forums from lawyers. They are rarely complimentary.

ApocalipstickNow · 30/10/2024 14:49

Is Stabler still in it?

loropianalover · 30/10/2024 14:53

ApocalipstickNow · 30/10/2024 14:49

Is Stabler still in it?

He’s in Organised Crime now I think

SootherSue · 30/10/2024 15:12

You should see Season 25 Episode 2. It's not TRA-related, but it is horrendous.

duc748 · 30/10/2024 16:19

I used to watch it donkey's years ago. I thought it was pretty good back then, albeit a bit bleak. Sorry to hear it's gone off the rails.

NitroNine · 31/10/2024 16:23

SootherSue · 30/10/2024 15:12

You should see Season 25 Episode 2. It's not TRA-related, but it is horrendous.

I suppose at least I have a few years to mentally prepare myself 🙈

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