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CrystalSea · 26/10/2024 21:34

When one of their opening campaigns was for men to be able to stay overnight in maternity wards, I realised they were the Privileged Women’s Equality Party and quit.

Their eulogy for woman terrorising Chris Kaba was the final mail in their coffin. Imagine being the woman who was to be brave enough to take out an injunction against him reading a women’s organisation mourning his death?

What a pathetic bunch of handmaidens Maru and Sandi are. No idea who else is involved and don’t really care

DustyAmuseAlien · 26/10/2024 21:41

I went to a founding meeting "lets work out what our policies should be" thing and was thoroughly disillusioned by how shallow and disconnected from reality they were long before they even decided that twaw.

ResisterOfTwaddleRex · 26/10/2024 21:42

CrystalSea · 26/10/2024 21:34

When one of their opening campaigns was for men to be able to stay overnight in maternity wards, I realised they were the Privileged Women’s Equality Party and quit.

Their eulogy for woman terrorising Chris Kaba was the final mail in their coffin. Imagine being the woman who was to be brave enough to take out an injunction against him reading a women’s organisation mourning his death?

What a pathetic bunch of handmaidens Maru and Sandi are. No idea who else is involved and don’t really care

I find myself in agreement with this. No idea WTF they were thinking with their lionisation of Kaba but it was in keeping for a group of women allegedly advancing women's rights. While actually helping to regress our status, because they pandered to men.

It's a mystery they stayed solvent this long. They won't be missed.

TrainedByDinosaurs · 26/10/2024 21:48

Good, they won’t be missed by women because they don’t speak for women and they didn’t achieve anything for women they just set the discussion backwards.

DancingNotDrowning · 26/10/2024 21:50

I thought it could only be a matter of months when they made that horrific post celebrating Chris Kaba

they’ve always prioritised men. Which was never going to work,

PermanentTemporary · 26/10/2024 21:59

I might have felt sad because they were trying something different, even if I didn't agree with what seemed to be their principles, until the Kaba tweet. Which demonstrated a complete lack of clue.

tourdefrance · 26/10/2024 22:00

I was briefly a member. I didn't get involved with the local group because it was TWAW but hoped that wasn't true nationwide and I could support campaigns eg for better childcare. But there was zero communication from the centre until I resigned. The vote to decide if their policy should be twaw was in person only, when I was able to vote electronically for the National Trust's AGM motions that year. Not exactly democratic.
I now belong to a different organisation with Women in its title, who know exactly what a woman is and is extremely well run.

Alltheprettyseahorses · 26/10/2024 22:02

I was a bit surprised - it's not that long since they won a council seat is it? Agree that the Kaba tweet deserved to finish them off.

Leafstamp · 26/10/2024 22:03

The ratio on their announcement on X is impressive!

I hope other women’s orgs (the other ones that think men can get women, like The Fawcett Society) learn from this.

x.com/wep_uk/status/1850245789076881443?s=46

SlowPonies · 26/10/2024 22:04

What happened with Kaba?

Melroses · 26/10/2024 22:07

It is a lesson for any organisation set up for women, but I doubt it will be learned. 😔

DancingNotDrowning · 26/10/2024 22:17

Twitter post on Chris Kaba

The (literal) end of the Women's Equality Party
lonelywater · 26/10/2024 22:23

SlowPonies · 26/10/2024 22:04

What happened with Kaba?

unbelievably, the WEP put out a boo hoo statement commiserating with the black community (like they all think the same thing, right?) on the sad loss of the recently departed waste of space gangster and violent thug at the hands of the Babylon. No, I'm not making this up.

HerGorgeousMajestyArabellaScott · 26/10/2024 22:24

'It takes courage to start a new political movement in a system designed to shut out radical, progressive voices like ours.'

Radical?!

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 26/10/2024 22:31

At present the only supportive tweet I've seen in response to the WEP's announcement is from Steph Richards, trans-identfied male. Figures.

Retiredfromthere · 26/10/2024 22:38

RethinkingLife · 26/10/2024 21:12

Likewise but the prompt for my departures was the lack of due process in the way that they dealt with Brunskell-Evans.

And, yes, that was the start of the straying from the path. I don't know how much money they started losing then until they ended up in thrall to the man who gave them money in return for dominating WEP's agenda and corrupting the founding principles.

Thank you. I have now read up on what happened with Brunskell-Evans (had not been previously aware.

This http://www.heather-brunskell-evans.co.uk/body-politics/public-statement-to-the-womens-equality-party/ and this http://www.heather-brunskell-evans.co.uk/body-politics/open-letter/ are well worth reading if you are similarly unaware. How the WEP remained for so long is really worrying. It seems to have been a very inaccurately named party.

Open Letter

As some people are aware, I was a Spokeswoman for the Women’s Equality Party’s (WEP) policy on Violence Against Women and Girls. As a result of my views expressed on the Moral Maze Radio 4 on November 15th, 2017 complaints were made by one or more pa

http://www.heather-brunskell-evans.co.uk/body-politics/open-letter

LauraMipsum · 26/10/2024 22:38

I was a founder member too. I wasn't happy when they decided women meant anybody at all, but had some residual hope they'd have something sensible to say about conflict of rights and that they would be the one party (at the time) to at least discuss it. Disappointingly not to be. The only one of them with any integrity was Sophie Walker and they threw her out. I can't remember if I left just before or just after she did, but it was when it became apparent they really weren't about women at all.

The Kaba tweet reminded me of Amnesty feting Cageprisoner.

JanesLittleGirl · 26/10/2024 22:39

Good.

ODFOx · 26/10/2024 22:43

That is sad news. ☹️

AnotherAngryAcademic · 26/10/2024 23:00

PP have mentioned Sophie Walker. Here is a letter she wrote about the issue of self ID and now the party decided to (not) manage it www.wepsbr.com/post/sophiewalkerletter

Sophie Walker's Letter to Mandu Reid

Sophie Walker writes to Mandu Reid asking her to withdraw motion on Gender Self-ID

https://www.wepsbr.com/post/sophiewalkerletter

birdiesings · 26/10/2024 23:02

Good.

They were an absolute disgrace and their founders, who clearly only started this vanity project for themselves instead of women, should be condemned.

SilverChampagne · 26/10/2024 23:03

EmpressaurusDeiGatti · 26/10/2024 20:32

They prioritised men long before Izzard. They were campaigning for men in women’s prisons right back in 2015 when they’d barely started.

Shock
Bannedontherun · 26/10/2024 23:09

Sorry womens i have to say there are class issues with feminism which is what they portrayed. Had fuck all to do with me and mine

Sortumn · 26/10/2024 23:16

Bannedontherun · 26/10/2024 23:09

Sorry womens i have to say there are class issues with feminism which is what they portrayed. Had fuck all to do with me and mine

That was my sense. I was excited about a party for women but I didn't see anything I recognised as being representative of me. It was very disappointing and they've barely been on my radar since.

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