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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Where TF is the Charity Commission report into Mermaids?

59 replies

Taytoface · 23/10/2024 07:15

I know they are not renowned for being fast, but we must be coming up to two years now.

If, as we suspect, they are actively damaging children, this is two more years they have been allowed to do this.

If they see nothing wrong in handing out binders, pointing kids to Reddit, having nonce apologists on the Board and having staff members make incredibly graphic pornographic art, then that is two year of a shadow hanging over them unfairly, making fundraising really difficult.

Wha go'an?

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AlisonDonut · 24/10/2024 05:41

Apparently it is out.

I can't get over this...are they having a laugh?

Where TF is the Charity Commission report into Mermaids?
BonfireLady · 24/10/2024 06:04

AlisonDonut · 24/10/2024 05:41

Apparently it is out.

I can't get over this...are they having a laugh?

Indeed.

Those first 3 points are surely a complete contradiction to what they say about Susie Green. The definition of "medical advice" must be very narrow e.g. it doesn't include advising parents to affirm their child's declared gender identity and then circumventing GPs to refer these children to GIDS. It stands to reason that the referrals would be with the parents' permission if they had already helped the parents to understand that this was the right step for their child - including telling parents on their website that puberty blockers “internationally recognised safe, reversible healthcare option”.

Quote is from the Guardian:
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/oct/24/trans-childrens-charity-told-to-rewrite-guidance-on-puberty-blockers

An earlier article from the Telegraph makes it clear that Susie Green very much saw herself as a medical professional..... so presumably the advice was... medical:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/05/27/trans-lobby-group-mermaids-helped-nhs-treatment-children/

Similarly, I wonder how they define a safeguarding policy issue. In the Guardian article it references the previous policy of providing brreastbinders to children without parental knowledge. Given breastbinders can lead to permanent spine damage, surely this is a safeguarding issue. Or perhaps it no longer counts because they stopped doing it - however, it's still evidence of a policy that was inappropriate for safeguarding.

Trans children’s charity told to rewrite guidance on puberty blockers

Charity Commission investigation also said there had been mismanagement within Mermaids

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/oct/24/trans-childrens-charity-told-to-rewrite-guidance-on-puberty-blockers

Datun · 24/10/2024 06:25

i still think their days are numbered. People are definitely no longer beguiled by the concept of a 'trans' child.

And however much the CC whitewash it, the place attracted very creepy men indeed.

AlisonDonut · 24/10/2024 06:33

About sending out binders to girls:

However, the Commission has issued statutory advice to the charity requiring that, should it ever resume this service, its future policy and controls should reflect the recent Cass Review, or any future NHS guidelines on parental involvement

Should it ever resume the service? How about 'never do that again'?

BonfireLady · 24/10/2024 06:43

HerGorgeousMajestyArabellaScott · 24/10/2024 06:25

https://www.anne.health/articles/a-statement-by-susie-green-foll-charity-commissions-findings-on-mermaids

Green claims to have found a legal route to importing blockers.

This woman won't stop by herself.

I think her legal route for blocker importing no longer exists with the extension of the PB ban to Northern Ireland.

However, she's definitely a fan of loopholes by the looks of things. Her new organisation isn't a charity or a CIC, so she no longer needs to worry about her advice being regulated.

To put that in perspective, Transgender Trend isn't a charity or a CIC either..... but their advice falls under the "watchful waiting", "let children go through puberty" caution side of things.... not telling parents to take direct action and intervene to stop a child going through puberty and/or irreversibly alter their endocrine system and physical bodies.

AlisonDonut · 24/10/2024 06:54

Green states

One technique used to undermine charities and CICs is to tie them up with regulatory scrutiny and never-ending administrative tasks surrounding investigations and litigation.

Yeah that's what YOU did to LGBA.

I mean, the absolute gall of this woman.

Taytoface · 24/10/2024 07:23

Oooooh do you think they heard me?

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ResisterOfTwaddleRex · 24/10/2024 07:26

Two years for some governance issues and not a peep on safeguarding.

Children are being very badly let down by adults. As always.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 24/10/2024 07:40

HerGorgeousMajestyArabellaScott · 24/10/2024 07:16

What absolute BULLSHIT!

No evidence of safeguarding failures?

They had a self confessed nonce on their board of trustees and a man on their staff who posted pictures of his cock and balls all over Twitter!

AlisonDonut · 24/10/2024 07:42

I feel like it could say 'if your staff plan on making collages out of their anus and cock and balls pics, please put a trigger warning on their twitter posts when they publicly show off their artwork' and nobody would bat an eyelid.

givemeheaven · 24/10/2024 07:49

I've seen JKR, SexMatters and LGBA putting a positive spin on this, but am I missing something because to me this has no teeth and is merely a slap on the wrist and "carry on"?

ResisterOfTwaddleRex · 24/10/2024 07:51

givemeheaven · 24/10/2024 07:49

I've seen JKR, SexMatters and LGBA putting a positive spin on this, but am I missing something because to me this has no teeth and is merely a slap on the wrist and "carry on"?

You're not missing anything. It's a good news day for Mermaids.

AlisonDonut · 24/10/2024 07:52

givemeheaven · 24/10/2024 07:49

I've seen JKR, SexMatters and LGBA putting a positive spin on this, but am I missing something because to me this has no teeth and is merely a slap on the wrist and "carry on"?

No, this is unbelievable.

jabbaf · 24/10/2024 08:06

Datun · 24/10/2024 06:25

i still think their days are numbered. People are definitely no longer beguiled by the concept of a 'trans' child.

And however much the CC whitewash it, the place attracted very creepy men indeed.

I think this too. Their days are numbered. They're considered a deeply controversial "charity" which is steeped in scandals. When we're asked for advice re a gender confused child, our public health based organisation never recommends parents talk with mermaids. Anyone but.

frenchnoodle · 24/10/2024 10:28

givemeheaven · 24/10/2024 07:49

I've seen JKR, SexMatters and LGBA putting a positive spin on this, but am I missing something because to me this has no teeth and is merely a slap on the wrist and "carry on"?

Did you expect anything else?

ResisterOfTwaddleRex · 24/10/2024 21:46

A much more informed comment. The kind you might make if you understood child safeguarding, and hadn’t mysteriously been able to respond almost immediately, therefore being able to digest it and give it thought.

x.com/safeschools_uk/status/1849506565851693443?s=48&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

Datun · 25/10/2024 12:37

Ah yes who can forget 'Jennie' being promoted on their website.

Do They honestly think this isn't a safeguarding issue!!!

Where TF is the Charity Commission report into Mermaids?
Datun · 25/10/2024 12:38

I have to say, women who view this entire ideology through a safeguarding lens never, ever get it wrong.

It's an absolutely failsafe way of making decisions.

Christinapple · 25/10/2024 13:55

ResisterOfTwaddleRex · 24/10/2024 07:51

You're not missing anything. It's a good news day for Mermaids.

Yep.

2 year investigation and the outcome is to amend info on puberty blockers and include parents on breast binders (even though giving them out isn't illegal either way, as mentioend by the Times article). There was mismanagement too as the charity grew rapidly but that's it. Mermaids are vindicated on all other accusations and the people who were claiming they were "giving surgical advice to children or encouraging them to have it" etc can now finally be quiet.

BonfireLady · 25/10/2024 14:21

Mermaids are vindicated on all other accusations and the people who were claiming they were "giving surgical advice to children or encouraging them to have it" etc can now finally be quiet.

Medical advice, rather than surgical advice.

Apparently supporting parents to circumvent GPs advice and then make a direct referral to GIDS.... while demanding to be seen as a medical professional... doesn't meet the Charity Commission's definition of medical advice. It meets mine though, so I have no plans to "finally be quiet".

jabbaf · 25/10/2024 14:23

Datun · 25/10/2024 12:38

I have to say, women who view this entire ideology through a safeguarding lens never, ever get it wrong.

It's an absolutely failsafe way of making decisions.

nails it