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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Baroness Nicholson’s letter to Butlins

57 replies

Harassedevictee · 16/10/2024 12:29

She is amazing.

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AlisonDonut · 17/10/2024 08:12

I'm thinking 'I'm what they wish they were' needs to go on a mug somewhere.

viques · 17/10/2024 08:45

“In the red corner we have Delicate Sensibilities and Dear Wishes, while the blue corner hosts Practical and Personal Needs. It’s a bit of a mismatch, as the red corner has the advantage of weight, height and reach , but the blue corner has the strength of moral and legal rights and the added advantage of hundreds of thousands of years of genetics and human biology. Your referee for tonight’s match will be Baroness Nicholson. Seconds out. Round one. And kapow! It’s a knockout blow from Practical and Personal Needs within the first 15 seconds.”

quantumbutterfly · 17/10/2024 08:45

I have a pen (from kjk shop I think) with the legend 'identifies as a sword'.
Words & humour & sunlight, weapons of mass instruction.

FranticFrankie · 17/10/2024 09:19

Fabulous letter
Love how she mentions Northern Soul!!
😆

Vegemiteandhoneyontoast · 17/10/2024 09:20

That is so delightfully scathing, I love it!

HereForTheFreeLunch · 17/10/2024 09:41

Wow! Completely unexpected and brilliantly fabulous!

She has zero fucks to give and then some. Like minus infinity!

NitroNine · 17/10/2024 14:18

its an AWESOME letter.

As mentioned elsewhere, I’d a relative who held a hereditary peerage & indeed held it through the Lords reform. I’m not sure if posters are aware, but on their death there was a by-election rather than the seat simply passing to my relative’s child. To be fair, I consider the one time it was inherited - & the person to whom the peerage was initially granted - genuinely were the sort of people we want in the second Chamber: fiercely intelligent; principled; extensively qualified in fields outwith politics that would be hugely useful in the legislature… Anyway, my main point was that the hereditary peerages are much better balanced than they used to be; Peers voting for their peers is, I think, helpful, as they understand the job & the skills needed.

What I’d really like to see is reform of the Lords Spiritual. It’s absurd that 3.3% of the seats in the HoL are held by people whose attendance rate is so abysmal & who - rightly, frankly - see their diocesan work as their priority. The second article I link to there would essentially have us believe that the clergy move [others] in mysterious 4D chess ways. None of that contributing to debates or putting things in writing 🤨 (Plus they’re totally consulting with other faith leaders. Yep. Uh-huh.)

If the C of E has to have a presence in the Lords - & at the moment they can’t start work without a bishop saying the magic words - it should be someone whose priority is that; who will (barring disaster) be present every day Parliament is in session; & not someone who should be busy with their [Arch]Diocese. A couple of clergy who were dedicated to the work would be more use than a couple of dozen who’re distracted. Perhaps making it what the Archbishop of Canterbury does on retirement; & having some kind of sabbatical option for bishops where they can do a stint in the HoL when between dioceses. Then 20-24 seats could be reassigned. I would like to see one go to a representative of each major faith group in the UK plus the Humanists - I know lots of posters would abhor that idea, happily for us all I’m not in charge of reforming the HoL so you don’t need to try to convince me it’s a terrible idea or otherwise express your disgust. I just think it would be preferable for there to be actual faith representatives in the HoL rather than random individuals being called on to speak for their faith community (& the inevitable lack of balance that results from that). It comes into a surprising amount of legislation; & tbh is again just about that balancing of cultures, qualifications & experience.

Returning to our sheep - or the letter, anyway - some absolute nugget on TwiX who fancied themselves some species of web dev more weird div tried insisting that the Baroness had in fact not written the letter herself, but rather, there’s some kind of industry churning out letters from members of the HoL. Eejit.

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