For Women Scotland heading for Supreme Court

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You can read the reasons etc in For Women Scotlands crowdfunder. They are launching this review
UK Supreme Court: The Definition of Sex in the Equality Act

The Inner House of the Court of Session Judgment

We believe the Equality Act was drafted on the basis of the ordinary, common law understanding of the biological differences between the two sexes. The protected characteristic of “sex” in the Equality Act is defined as a reference to a man or a woman, where man means “a male of any age” and woman means “a female of any age”. We think it is quite clear that these are distinct and separate groups and that “woman” is not a mixed-sex category.

However, in our recent judicial review, For Women Scotland v The Scottish Ministers [2023] CSIH 37, the Inner House took the opposite view and decided there is a relationship between the Gender Recognition Act 2004 (GRA) and Equality Act 2010 and held that the meaning of sex in the Equality Act incorporated the GRA framework.

The court decision stated that a person with a Gender Recognition Certificate (GRC) in their acquired gender has the protected characteristic of gender reassignment. Separately, they also possess the protected characteristic of sex according to the terms of their GRC and have a presumptive right to access the single-sex services of their acquired gender.

The Supreme Court will consider a request brought by For Women Scotland (FWS) who argue there are “strong grounds” for its challenge, which will almost certainly overturn contentious Scottish government legislation if successful.Campaigners for women’s “sex-based” rights reacted with delight to the news, including Magi Gibson, the poet, who posted on X/Twitter, that it was “game on” on in the “fight for the protection of women’s rights within the UK legal system”.Dennis Noel Kavanagh, a lawyer and the director of Gay Men’s Network, said: “Getting permission to go to the Supreme Court is really hard and very rare but FWS have it. The question ‘what is a woman’ in law will now be heard by our highest court. Massive news.”

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This would be a good place for the ‘pregnant man’ questions.

Surely the judges will recognise that. Isn't one of the main themes of the EA about balancing rights?

I doubt you are doing it right. Unless you have a GRC, that seems to be the only way to be living as a woman correctly.

Ah, she also doesn't believe a word she's saying. Jolly good.

I've just had to turn it off. My brain can't cope with all this bollocks.

"Two doctors/gender specialists to sign off, after two years living in opposite gender" ( is this really considered onerous?)

requirements:

2 medical reports - inc a diagnosis of gender dysphoria
2 statutory declarations

'there doesn't have to be treatment' - judge Rose

'great personal cost'
'onerous conditions to be met'
'living as the other'

But is any of this really true

As someone who has had to fill in a PIP form and be assesed, they can fuck off with their onerous conditions

Genderists suggest that to live as a woman you have to use women's facilities......of course.

All these requirements are potentially changeable aren't they? And the Scottish Government wanted self ID and Labour are planning to scrap all these "onerous" requirements so I don't understand why any of this is relevant.

lived in acquired gender for 2 years
declaration to live in gender til death

J so there needs to be details of treatments but no actual treatment

Barrister Yup

Judge seeks confirmation that there doesn't have to be treatment...

Judge Rose is keen to know more about this. Good.

'future intention requirement' - you mean they must pinky promise

My mind is wandering - did she say something like "living as the acquired gender as opposed to becoming that gender abroad"?

My laptop keeps crashing so am missing loads.

judge question - 'living in acquired gender?'

'using pronoun, various documents'

So are you going to say anything about living in the acquired gender?

She's going to come back to that (after she's got her shit together in the break)

"I'll come back to that..."

J Are you going to say anything about living in the acquired gender?

And yet Freddy after getting a GRC to be a man, promptly got pregnant!

It's confusing because they are referring to guidance and Acts that have been updated.

'What it means to show that you've lived in the aquired gender, what is your position on that'

'after lunch, milady'