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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Don't be silly! Transwomen in sports are no barrier to women and girls!

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BettyBooper · 04/10/2024 11:00

Listen up women! Maggie Chapman MSP has spoken!

'The participation of transgender women in sport, as in culture and the arts, in voluntary work, in public life or business, is no barrier to others. (4/6)

It is deeply sad that narratives such as those contained in this motion are used to spread anxiety and hostility, to build barriers where none are needed, and to cause the deepest pain to those already bearing heavy burdens. (5/6)

Sport can be a source of health, friendship, & sheer joy. We share that, no matter our body type, our culture, the colour of our skin or the precise details of our biological makeup. We should recognise the labour of achievement & stand with all who need our solidarity'.

Be told!

https://x.com/MaggieChapman/status/1841404626907603000

x.com

https://x.com/MaggieChapman/status/1841404626907603000

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SerafinasGoose · 04/10/2024 13:07

Note: no mention of trans men. Is she only concerned with one particular category of trans people?

There are no issues at all with trans people participating in sport. Cycling has set a good precedent with this. There are women-only categories, which ensure those with female biology can compete on a safe, fair and level pegging with others in that category. And there's an open category, in which any athlete might participate and which doesn't discriminate on the basis of gender presentation. This position is so reasonable that it's hard to find any legitimate causes for objecting to it.

I'm guessing that isn't what she means, though.

ArabellaScott · 04/10/2024 13:16

SerafinasGoose · 04/10/2024 13:07

Note: no mention of trans men. Is she only concerned with one particular category of trans people?

There are no issues at all with trans people participating in sport. Cycling has set a good precedent with this. There are women-only categories, which ensure those with female biology can compete on a safe, fair and level pegging with others in that category. And there's an open category, in which any athlete might participate and which doesn't discriminate on the basis of gender presentation. This position is so reasonable that it's hard to find any legitimate causes for objecting to it.

I'm guessing that isn't what she means, though.

Focussed entirely on the men with the ladyfeels.

lonelywater · 04/10/2024 13:26

she really is egg and chips twice, isn't she?

TwistedWonder · 04/10/2024 13:28

So she claims to be a feminist but will happily applaud women being fucked over to pander to the almighty penis.

These fools really will spout any old crap just to show how #bekind they are to the emperors new clothes BS.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 04/10/2024 14:52

If you let men compete in a women's sporting event it ceases to be women's sporting event. What doesn't she get about that?

Or as my nan would say were you born this thick or do you practice everyday in the mirror?

TwistedWonder · 04/10/2024 15:00

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 04/10/2024 14:52

If you let men compete in a women's sporting event it ceases to be women's sporting event. What doesn't she get about that?

Or as my nan would say were you born this thick or do you practice everyday in the mirror?

You see that’s where us silly old terfs get it wrong and need re educating to get rid of our hateful bigotry.

Just because these TW have a penis, XY chromosomes, high testosterone levels, larger more muscular bodies and are physically stronger and faster than biological women doesn’t mean they’re not women oh no.
So it’s so unfair and hateful to deny them their lady feelz just because actual women have trained a lifetime to compete on a fair playing field. Just move over love , forget your life long ambition and let 6 ft 4 Doris with her cock and balls showing win that gold medal.

lonelywater · 04/10/2024 15:28

when I was a kid, people this bonkers were put in the funny farm. When did we stop doing that?

ANameChangePresents · 04/10/2024 15:37

lonelywater · 04/10/2024 15:28

when I was a kid, people this bonkers were put in the funny farm. When did we stop doing that?

And now we vote them into high office. Mein Gott.

GiveMeSpanakopita · 04/10/2024 15:57

FrippEnos · 04/10/2024 12:49

Has anybody, anywhere ever stopped a trans person from playing a sport?

I have not been able to find any evidence of it anywhere.
Surely if it was the case Maggie and co would be able to provide examples of where its happened.

Has anybody, anywhere ever stopped a trans person from playing a sport?

Nope, in fact in many cases where men have forced their way into women's sports, they've been praised, feted and put on the cover of sports magazines.

However, there have been many women who've been stopped from reaching their goals in their chosen sport by the invasion of men.

Runor · 04/10/2024 16:01

I wonder if these people ever stop to wonder why women’s sport came into being in the first place - and why, if TW are allowed into women’s sport, any other man wouldn’t be allowed?

Anastomosisrex · 04/10/2024 16:08

It illustrates how many people don't really think of women as being worthwhile independent people in their own right.

I mean, it's not like those women are doing anything useful, is it? Why wouldn't they be glad to revolve their sports around a man and selflessly focus on making him happy like good mummy people do? Suck up the injuries and career loss with a smile because it's making him feel good.

ReadWithScepticism · 04/10/2024 16:17

lol at "the precise details of our biological makeup". As if sex were were like blood group or some other largely unperceivable variable

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 04/10/2024 16:19

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 04/10/2024 11:44

Nobody is forcing them to do that. The issue is that they want to do that, and they are being allowed to do so despite the fact that it's not fair on the other competitors.

There is absolutely nothing stopping any trans woman athlete from saying, "I am a woman but I have been through male puberty so I will continue to compete in the male category."

Yeah, but where’s the fun in that?

Snowypeaks · 04/10/2024 16:28

lonelywater · 04/10/2024 13:26

she really is egg and chips twice, isn't she?

😂
That's a new expression to me, but so apt!

NeverDropYourMooncup · 04/10/2024 16:36

Skyellaskerry · 04/10/2024 11:33

I know! I do think I gave them one of my votes way back when …

I was actually a member, so I gave them my money.

Didn't realise at the time that it was to fund the support of endangered flora and fauna in the form of white middle-class males to the exclusion of women, girls, and anything that could possibly be related to environmental or animal welfare concerns. Oh, and to support the largely retired middle-class of both sexes to bugger up the finances and health of working class people by superglueing themselves to trains and roads when not chucking soup and poster paint at historical and cultural treasures.

Katkins17 · 04/10/2024 16:56

I truly think this woman is evil at her core.... I know...hyperbole at its best...but I can't get over how little she seems to respect or care for women and girls and our rights, comfort, boundaries and dignity.

menopausalmare · 04/10/2024 16:59

Chersfrozenface · 04/10/2024 11:02

Moggie Personperson being a very silly person again.

😂

Igmum · 04/10/2024 18:50

There's a US trans woman poster on TikTok who is posting about committing to enter only men's sporting competitions this year. Interestingly they're getting a lot of pushback from their coaches etc who want them to enter women's competitions. Presumably for the win/record breaking achievement. Lots of support in the comments.

Ridiculous that man enters male sporting competition should be contentious but there you go.

FranticFrankie · 04/10/2024 19:04

Maggie; you talk shite,hen

CherryBlossomArt · 04/10/2024 22:28

I really don’t like her at all. She comes across as being the dangerous combination of bitter, vengeful and stupid. Impossible to reason with or influence.

RhannionKPSS · 04/10/2024 23:20

Maggie is off her heid, she and Karen Adam are a bloody disgrace and traitors to their sex

Abhannmor · 05/10/2024 11:02

Maggie Chapman just doesn't seem very intelligent , I'm afraid. Neither does Nadia Whittome. I don't wish to be unkind but they just seem completely out of their depth.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 05/10/2024 11:11

She is completely and utterly deranged. God I hate the list system in Scotland. We have no way of voting her and the other green nutters out.

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