Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Don't be silly! Transwomen in sports are no barrier to women and girls!

48 replies

BettyBooper · 04/10/2024 11:00

Listen up women! Maggie Chapman MSP has spoken!

'The participation of transgender women in sport, as in culture and the arts, in voluntary work, in public life or business, is no barrier to others. (4/6)

It is deeply sad that narratives such as those contained in this motion are used to spread anxiety and hostility, to build barriers where none are needed, and to cause the deepest pain to those already bearing heavy burdens. (5/6)

Sport can be a source of health, friendship, & sheer joy. We share that, no matter our body type, our culture, the colour of our skin or the precise details of our biological makeup. We should recognise the labour of achievement & stand with all who need our solidarity'.

Be told!

https://x.com/MaggieChapman/status/1841404626907603000

x.com

https://x.com/MaggieChapman/status/1841404626907603000

OP posts:
Chersfrozenface · 04/10/2024 11:02

Moggie Personperson being a very silly person again.

CocoapuffPuff · 04/10/2024 11:04

There's not a spot in hell hot enough for this despicable piece of shit.

Beowulfa · 04/10/2024 11:05

Fuck off Maggie.

BettyBooper · 04/10/2024 11:09

Beowulfa · 04/10/2024 11:05

Fuck off Maggie.

Yes, this!

OP posts:
TinaBarrow · 04/10/2024 11:17

Fucking idiot.

Helleofabore · 04/10/2024 11:22

Meanwhile the women in the US who are speaking out about male inclusion in sport are getting threats.

https://reduxx.info/exclusive-female-college-athlete-threatened-after-speaking-out-against-trans-identified-males-participating-in-womens-sport/

EXCLUSIVE: Female College Athlete Threatened After Speaking Out Against Trans-Identified Males Participating In Women’s Sport

October 3, 2024

Tonight’s women’s volleyball match between San Jose State University and Colorado State University will be monitored by droves of armed police after one of the San Jose players received a chilling death threat. The threat is believed to be a direct response to Brooke Slusser’s support for single-sex sports.

And there have been four teams forfeit their games in protest at male inclusion too.

EXCLUSIVE: Female College Athlete Threatened After Speaking Out Against Trans-Identified Males Participating In Women's Sport - Reduxx

Tonight’s women’s volleyball match between San Jose State University and Colorado State University will be monitored by droves of armed police after one of the San Jose players received a chilling death threat. The threat is believed to be a direct res...

https://reduxx.info/exclusive-female-college-athlete-threatened-after-speaking-out-against-trans-identified-males-participating-in-womens-sport

GiveMeSpanakopita · 04/10/2024 11:22

I am always amused by the way that TRAs, when they run out of their meagre store of cod scientific arguments, always fall back on one of two fallacies:

  1. A simplistic and deeply patronising appeal to light, love and #bekind
  2. A paternalistic and deeply patronising minimisation of women's concerns about their rights: "Now what are you silly terfs getting your knickers all in a twist about? There's nothing to see here for you to bother your silly little heads about!"

It's interesting to see Chapman manage to deploy BOTH fallacies here in one statement. But in doing so she demonstrates her own ignorance. Sport is, sadly, NOT something that unites women of all cultures. Afghan, Pakistani and Saudi women have in recent months been subject to severe punishment for wanting and trying to pursue sport (and in Uganda, three have been SET ON FIRE), as Maggie might know if she tore her attention away from menzfeelz for long enough to read a newspaper report or two.

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 04/10/2024 11:23

Is she still at it? You have to hand it to her, no amount of physical reality or political disaster is going to influence her. She's unstoppable!

puffyisgood · 04/10/2024 11:24

this is especially entertaining for those of us who are old enough to remember the greens being an environmentalist party.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 04/10/2024 11:26

'The participation of transgender women in sport, as in culture and the arts, in voluntary work, in public life or business, is no barrier to others. (4/6)

Well it isn't. Provided they compete in the correct sex category like everyone else.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 04/10/2024 11:28

She's deranged.

DoIEver · 04/10/2024 11:28

I don't think it's the participation in sports that's the issue.
To me the issue is forcing people who have had the advantage of testosterone to compete with those that haven't.

user98786 · 04/10/2024 11:32

Yes, we agree.

ALL males should be able to compete in the male category no matter how they identify.

Quick someone create a flag for this.

Skyellaskerry · 04/10/2024 11:33

puffyisgood · 04/10/2024 11:24

this is especially entertaining for those of us who are old enough to remember the greens being an environmentalist party.

I know! I do think I gave them one of my votes way back when …

user98786 · 04/10/2024 11:33

Skyellaskerry · 04/10/2024 11:33

I know! I do think I gave them one of my votes way back when …

Sadly, I did too.

Helleofabore · 04/10/2024 11:37

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 04/10/2024 11:26

'The participation of transgender women in sport, as in culture and the arts, in voluntary work, in public life or business, is no barrier to others. (4/6)

Well it isn't. Provided they compete in the correct sex category like everyone else.

This is the misrepresentation that goes along with this bit of emotional manipulation, isn’t it?

These male people are not excluded from sport. Just from female sports categories, like all other male people.

BettyBooper · 04/10/2024 11:38

DoIEver · 04/10/2024 11:28

I don't think it's the participation in sports that's the issue.
To me the issue is forcing people who have had the advantage of testosterone to compete with those that haven't.

Well the issue is that it's the other way round, but I do agree with you.

OP posts:
YesterdaysFuture · 04/10/2024 11:38

Trans women's participation in categories for XY individuals should be no barrier for women and girls.

Unfortunately trans women are also competing in female categories.

There is always a deliberate muddle of language claiming that trans women are banned from sport full stop, purposefully forgetting that they are able to freely compete in the male categories.

Anastomosisrex · 04/10/2024 11:39

It's just plain delusional at that point.

'I say my personal reality is this!'

Yeah, we don't live in your personal reality love.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 04/10/2024 11:44

DoIEver · 04/10/2024 11:28

I don't think it's the participation in sports that's the issue.
To me the issue is forcing people who have had the advantage of testosterone to compete with those that haven't.

Nobody is forcing them to do that. The issue is that they want to do that, and they are being allowed to do so despite the fact that it's not fair on the other competitors.

There is absolutely nothing stopping any trans woman athlete from saying, "I am a woman but I have been through male puberty so I will continue to compete in the male category."

NotBadConsidering · 04/10/2024 11:46

Moggie Personperson

🤣🤣🤣👏

DoIEver · 04/10/2024 11:59

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 04/10/2024 11:44

Nobody is forcing them to do that. The issue is that they want to do that, and they are being allowed to do so despite the fact that it's not fair on the other competitors.

There is absolutely nothing stopping any trans woman athlete from saying, "I am a woman but I have been through male puberty so I will continue to compete in the male category."

Ha ha ha yes! I started typing one thing then changed it and it's too late to edit! I mean the other way round.

lcakethereforeIam · 04/10/2024 12:33

I'm beginning to think Personpeeps is some kind of bot, or perhaps a little lower rent than that. Maybe she has a string coming out of her neck that someone yanks every now and again and a ta load of shite talking point comes out. Or, possibly, just 'mama!'.

But, anyway, if she's in the mood to talk...yeah, about Mr Idal and the ERC, Mags?

FrippEnos · 04/10/2024 12:49

Has anybody, anywhere ever stopped a trans person from playing a sport?

I have not been able to find any evidence of it anywhere.
Surely if it was the case Maggie and co would be able to provide examples of where its happened.

puffyisgood · 04/10/2024 12:54

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 04/10/2024 11:26

'The participation of transgender women in sport, as in culture and the arts, in voluntary work, in public life or business, is no barrier to others. (4/6)

Well it isn't. Provided they compete in the correct sex category like everyone else.

quite right, just as the participation of 12 year olds in football is no barrier to the existence of an u-9s team, or the participation of 120kg behemoths in boxing is no barrier to the existence of the lightweight category... provided everyone's in the proper class.