Eddie Izzard says J K Rowling isn't transphobic

[WallaceinAnderland]

https://news.sky.com/story/jk-rowling-isnt-transphobic-says-gender-fluid-eddie-izzard-12177312#:~:text=Eddie%20Izzard,%20a%20gender-fluid%20comedian%20who%20uses%20both%20male%20and

Wonder why it's taken so long. Does Eddie think the tide is turning?

Transwomen do not have the 'right' to use women-only facilities in the UK. We don't really have public bathrooms unless you count swimming baths or Turkish baths, but you usually have to pay to use those.

Somehow I have been in a queue for a toilet (in the ladies) behind Eddie Izzard twice. I didn't say anything and neither did anyone else.

I fucking hated it that he was in there though.

Cisgender and it's Ancient Roman Latin prefix cis (translates to "on the same side of" and is the opposite of the prefix trans) are not offensive regardless what Elon Musk or JK Rowling say. They're in dictionaries, feel free to look them up.

This question remains unanswered- Graham has issued a threat of violence if he sees Izzard in a woman's bathroom. Graham is ci.. I mean not trans, so what he is he doing in women's toilets?? Who made Graham the official women's toilet inspector?

while i think Graham Linehan sometimes goes too far: is that a real threat? really?

Because then you might want to have a small word with the "Decapitate terfs" crew.

On what basis are trans women, who are biological males, allowed to use a woman’s toilet?

FYI - Stonewall law is not THE law.

Linehan has as much right to be in a women’s toilet as Izzard.

Stop it. Just stop using it. You have been told time and time again.

It is nothing to do with lating and ancient roman and everything to do with you TRAs being misogynistc twats and wanting to put women i their place.

Trans women do not belong in women's spaces since to be a trans woman you have to be a man.

You (you're a bloke right?) DO NOT get to tell us what we find offensive. Especially in the face of countless posters telling you countless times that we do find people referring to us with the stupid, first used in the 70s? 80s? prefix offensive.

There is no same side or other side of being a woman.

There is just being a woman and not being a woman.

Who are you to decide what other people find offensive

Oh Lordy Linehan might notice who's in the queue for the women's toilets & it's so very wrong BUT if he popped on a nice skirt & lipstick we should welcome him in 🙄

Cisgender and it's Ancient Roman Latin prefix cis (translates to "on the same side of" and is the opposite of the prefix trans)

Chris, are you seriously going down the route of 'transwomen are on the opposite side to women, because ancient Romans?'

I don't know, "trans women are on the opposite side to women" is actually getting quite close to the truth, isn't it?

Yes, they are. The opposite sex, in fact.

Who made Graham the official women's toilet inspector?

Nobody needed to "make" him official, you status-essentialist bigot. He put on a badge that says "I identify as a women's toilet inspector" and changed his pronouns to bog/brush. Therefore he is a women's toilet inspector, because he says he is.

Yes, the opposite side of 'woman' is 'man'.

Kinky boots 😂😂

btw isn't Linehan in the process of being sued by a homosexual man atm for defamation?

Are you referring to this?

https://x.com/SEENpoliceUK/status/1839255593741099397

Eddie Izzard is a transvestite. He jumped into saying you could call him 'suzy' when he's in 'girl mode' (wearing horrendous ratty extensions, dreadful makeup and tight lyrca to draw attention to your penis) but he's never said he's a woman I don't think. Why do people keep calling him 'she'?

I don't want the queue for the ladies to increase because men are using it!

It's really ironic how some people, always on the genderist side of things, pop up to 'Romansplain' the word 'cis' to women and tell us it's not offensive 'it's Latin dontcha know' (yes I did know, it's used in molecular chemistry).

Offence is subjective - if I find something offensive then it's offensive to me. End of.

An example: The boys at school in the 80s used to use 'spastic' as an insult. When the charity The spastics society changed their name to 'scope', it didn't take long for 'scopey ' to become the new insult. Nothing offensive about the word per se (see, I can use Latin too), but the intent was pretty offensive and the teachers quite rightly didn't allow it.

The hypocrisy is phenomenal - we are scolded for not referring to Mr Izzard (or his alter ego) and other TW as 'she' and not welcoming them into the ladies toilet lest they become upset - but does the consideration go both ways?

Does it fuck.

When you can show the same respect and consideration that you are demanding we show these men, maybe just maybe you'll be worth listening to.

Oh. And anyone can sue anyone else if they can get a solicitor to take their case (or are brave enough to represent themselves). It doesn't mean they're going to be successful, nor does it mean the defendant has done anything wrong!

Absolutely.

Are trans women offended by me saying that they're men?

Yes.

Am I offended by them saying that they're women, as if all we are is a spinny skirt and lipstick?

Also yes.

Someone is going to be offended either way.

We can all agree that if you are talking about a transwoman, the only thing that makes them a transwoman is that they are male.

Yep. Apparently I can't self ID as a trans woman, being female as I am.

I find this deeply hypocritical.

A trans woman is a male person who says they are a woman.

The difference between a woman and a trans woman is that a woman is female and a trans woman is male.

The difference between a man and a trans woman is that a trans woman says they are a woman. That's literally the only difference, and once you see it you can't unsee it. That's why it makes no sense to talk about real trans women versus men who are just pretending. Any male person who says they are a woman is a real trans woman.

This ^^ 👍

Whether trans women should use women's bathrooms is debateable, but as I've said cis and cisgender are both perfectly valid terms as backed up by all major dictionaries (none of which list them as offensive). I have no reason to stop using them as needed for their intended use and shouldn't let myself be controlled by others on what words I use.

While cisgender was coined about 30 years ago, the "stupid Latin prefix" you mention has indeed been around since Ancient Roman times and can be used in multiple contexts e.g.