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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Sally Hines

133 replies

WandsOut · 20/09/2024 13:38

https://x.com/sally_hines/status/1836778288112370076?s=46

"I wish I knew whether the high profile GCs who have a political and policy background and a level of legal knowledge, and yet repeatedly use mantras such as ‘sex based rights’ and ‘GC beliefs as protected’ are wilfully engaging in disinformation practices or are wildly ignorant.

The first is shocking and the latter pitiful. I’m not thinking about the shock jocks and grifters such as KJM, but GCs with a policy, research and/or academic role. Do they make things up knowingly or get things very wrong?

I’m not talking about theoretical or political understandings or perspectives which are to be invested and believed in - or not. But substantive factors. For eg, whether or not there should be ‘sex based rights’ is an opinion, a normative question.

Stating that these rights exist though is wrong. And this is why there is so little GC research published in academic journals. It’s not silencing, it’s incoherence and falsehoods. The ideal public arena for GC thought is the shock, and tease, tabloid opinion pieces.

But if one wants to be active in research, policy…

You really can’t go around just making things up and get a reputable publication. You can fool the Tories and you can be used by the far right, but you can’t get past Reviewer 2"

Is she fucking stupid?

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annejumps · 30/11/2024 19:27

Amnesty is very much captured as is the ACLU in the US. It's chilling

NoBinturongsHereMate · 30/11/2024 19:45

Amnesty claimed the Taliban in Afghanistan were oppressing 'those who identify as women and girls'.

The skeleton thing is so utterly bonkers I can't really object to it. And it's led to excellent cartoons.

Igneococcus · 30/11/2024 20:33

No female skeletons before the enlightenment?
That's where Wolfgang Pauli's putdown "not even wrong" comes in handy.

SquirrelSoShiny · 30/11/2024 22:41

ArabellaScott · 30/11/2024 21:32

In one tweet in January 2019, Hines asked: “Can transphobic lesbians still be shagable? [sic]”

https://archive.thetab.com/uk/sheffield/2019/11/16/sheffield-university-professor-under-fire-for-asking-if-transphobic-lesbians-can-be-shaggable-41060

That is a genuinely disgusting tweet dressed up as edgy non-conformity.

I'm so bored of identikit cowardly academics. Where are the challengers and free thinkers?

FlirtsWithRhinos · 01/12/2024 01:23

Well, she's kind of right.

We did have sex based rights, but genderists destroyed them by deciding the word "woman", which originally meant female people, also includes some male people who share an effable, indescribable, undetectable but nevertheless very real and super important womannyness of mind with female people (except for those female people who share a very real and super important mannyness of mind with male people of course).

And now there is this playground-gotcha level of logic that says "well you never said women can't be male, so woman's rights haven't ever been based on sex at all so nerh"

It's pitiful. The honest thing to do, if "woman" is to become mixed sex, is to look at every one of women's existing rights, provisions and opportunities and say "why did we need it originally? does it make sense that this isn't going to be based on sex but on self image?" and leave the things that were created to manage the challenges of the female sex to the female sex.

Am honest movement that genuinely believed it was progressive and fair would not be afraid to ask that question.

TempestTost · 01/12/2024 01:55

SinnerBoy · 30/11/2024 18:48

No female skeletons before the enlightenment? WTAF? She just HAS to be a stealth TERF!

Like, even the medieval didn't have them?

They were a pretty bawdy bunch I am pretty sure they knew the difference between a cock and a hen.

NoBinturongsHereMate · 01/12/2024 08:03

At least half the jokes in Shakespeare rely on knowing the difference between a cock and a hen.

DiaAssolellat · 01/12/2024 09:30

ArabellaScott · 30/11/2024 21:32

In one tweet in January 2019, Hines asked: “Can transphobic lesbians still be shagable? [sic]”

https://archive.thetab.com/uk/sheffield/2019/11/16/sheffield-university-professor-under-fire-for-asking-if-transphobic-lesbians-can-be-shaggable-41060

Shagable - from a Professor 🧐

Snowypeaks · 01/12/2024 11:41

DiaAssolellat · 01/12/2024 09:30

Shagable - from a Professor 🧐

She acts like a rebellious teen.

BettyFilous · 01/12/2024 12:39

I’m so glad I don’t have to work with Sally Hines. I feel for her colleagues.

DiaAssolellat · 01/12/2024 12:53

Snowypeaks · 01/12/2024 11:41

She acts like a rebellious teen.

It’s embarrassing. It’s even more embarrassing that she can’t spell correctly despite being, as she pointed out to someone, a Professor. Or perhaps deliberate misspelling is part of the rebellious teen act?

BettyFilous · 01/12/2024 13:00

Queering colonialist British English spelling maybe?

ArabellaScott · 01/12/2024 13:01

Snowypeaks · 01/12/2024 11:41

She acts like a rebellious teen.

Hey, I know a lot of rebellious teens and many have more depth, clarity and insight than this.

Snowypeaks · 01/12/2024 13:07

ArabellaScott · 01/12/2024 13:01

Hey, I know a lot of rebellious teens and many have more depth, clarity and insight than this.

😆
True!

TWETMIRF · 01/12/2024 13:14

You'd think a Professor would be embarrassed to state publicly that they can't tell the difference between men and women but she's proud of it. I hope that all her students get to choose the grades they identity as having and she makes sure that their paperwork matches their internal feelings. A first for everyone!

HoneyButterPopcorn · 01/12/2024 17:12

nauticant · 20/09/2024 13:47

Whenever I think who her Dad was I feel sad.

Oh no, I loathed that book at school. She does come across as a but dim.

HotSlippergirl · 01/12/2024 17:21

Is she fucking stupid?

Yes.

But what I have observed from the recent USA election is that the Left believe their own propaganda. I honestly thought they knew they were talking shite when they called us fascists and such like but I realise now that they actually believe it. So Sally HInes probably does believe her side's propaganda about her, yes.

DialSquare · 03/12/2024 17:56

Is anyone reading JKRs latest tweets to Sallly? I'm pissing myself!

Snowypeaks · 03/12/2024 18:13

DialSquare · 03/12/2024 17:56

Is anyone reading JKRs latest tweets to Sallly? I'm pissing myself!

Please, please copy or paste screenshots, DialSquare.

DialSquare · 03/12/2024 18:38

SH tweet followed by JKRs response.

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DialSquare · 03/12/2024 18:40

There's quite a few. Nitter link below:

xcancel.com/jk_rowling/status/1863947188683891092#m

DialSquare · 03/12/2024 18:44

Some more

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DialSquare · 03/12/2024 18:45

It's a massacre!

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Helleofabore · 03/12/2024 18:49

DialSquare · 03/12/2024 18:44

Some more

dial Thank you so much!

That is so fucking funny about the fonts and the images.