Scotland became the laboratory for trans extremism – and it’s not just the SNP’s fault

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Three recent events have confirmed that Scotland’s civic sphere has drastically over-reached itself on the subject of gender ideology. ...

And still politicians at Holyrood, politicians of most of the main parties (with the honourable exception of the Scottish Conservatives) refuse even to discuss the issue, for fear that they will be asked what is, to them, the unanswerable question, What is a woman? ...

Full article at https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/09/19/scotland-became-the-laboratory-for-trans-extremism/

Can also be read at https://archive.is/lkkdj

the SNP may well not be entirely responsible, but they sure did a convincing impression of running around a fire with a jerry can full of petrol.

If it isn't SNPs fault who's is it?
They can't exactly blame Westminster for it.
I don't think England has had an Isla Bryson, bloke on what's normally an all female college course getting done for rape and getting sent to a female prison
Nor has England managed to put a man in charge of a rape crisis centre.
What about the 'Period Dignity Officer' remember him that made CNN!!

Remember them fighting for Self ID? Westminster stopped ✋️ them .

I'm sure their are a dozen others but if it wasn't SNP who was it - the big boy that ran away in the motor home.

Did you read the article?

Scottish society is more than the SNP!

The article also mentions support from Labour and Lib Dems

Don’t forget the greens !

the ordinary people of Scotland don’t believe in this madness

but councils, schools, charities , hospitals do. Has anyone been to the sick kids recently, the we support trans kids is all over there
what a disgrace police Scotland are to allow self id

Exactly!!
'Naw, naw..... all this shite that's proving to not ge popular now..... and has been a total binfire?.... wisnae us!!!! Them lot at Westminster!! They did it!!'

Good article. There's also the ideologues at Edinburgh Uni churning out true believers into the Scottish workforce. The Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre trustee whose evidence in the Employment Tribunal was described by the judge as hardline and dogmatic was a recent Ed Uni graduate.

And it was an Edinburgh Uni Professor who was brought into a meeting of rape survivors under false pretences to lecture them on trans rights. Brought in by her partner, Rape Crisis Scotland Head Sandy Brindley. Who is still in post BTW.

www.holyrood.com/comment/view,how-a-service-set-up-for-traumatised-women-forgot-its-core-function

^ ahh yes, her LinkedIn profile is very interesting and still full of gender woo despite resigning as soon as Roz Adams won her tribunal.

The greens ofcourse, and that's why humza sacked them and the bute house agreement as soon as he found out what those big meanies were doing honest gov🤥

Karen White. Raped/assaulted women IN PRISON. A few years before Isla.Bryson, just didn't get as much news coverage.

@ArabellaScott ah but remember these women were wrong 'uns, in prison so can we trust them?.... I'd heard they were all meanies to poor KW as noone wanted to share a cell which caused 'hurty feelz' which we all KNOW is the real travesty and crime!

Article is 100% correct this is applicable to all the main parties.in Scotland except most of the Conservatives - one Tory did vote for the GRR bill.

Thr SNP will be out come next election. They are over.

Labour, Libdems, and Greens are all just as supportive of self ID, and associated gender woo, as the SNP were.

At least Cass has been accepted, and once that domino falls I do wonder how long politicians will cling to the myth of the holy wafer of trans substantiation.

Children have been harmed based on fuck.all evidence. Based on a cult-like adherence to bullshit ideology that claims we can choose and change our sex.

The myth is toast, it's just a matter of how and how quickly politicians can disentangle themselves from the seriously tangled web of gender woo.

Good luck to them all, finding a golden bridge. Children have been irreperably harmed because of either their cowardice or stupidity and I have no sympathy whatsoever for their weaselly reverses now.

I should add a tiny handful of principled politicians in Labour have spoken up. Any Libdems? Obviously the Greens have expelled and purged any wrong thinkers who hadn't already left.

I think a large part of this is that the Scottish Establishment, bridging politics, media, academia, the third sector, the arts sector is small and largely based in Edinburgh. The people involved are closely networked together more than South of the border. It's not an environment that fosters independence of thought.

Yes, very well put.

Agreed

Absolutely nauticant, a very small number of people tothas had ally disproportional impact on policy.

Bah, I missed out education, the Police, and, particularly, the Civil Service.

There was an account given, a while back, about a social occasion with the upper echelons of the Scottish political elite, where Wadhwa seems to have been treated like their pet project. Difficult to say whether he was a principal driver or merely welcomed in to an already primed situation, but he appears to have been very nicely positioned, even though it has ultimately gone wrong.

There’s quite often a FtM somewhere, leading very quietly under the radar. James Morton might be the Scottish version of Stephen Whittle. They’re often much more effective and also invisible. It would be interesting to know what connections there are there too. Unlikely we’ll ever know.

I think it's these small Govs like New Zealand. Not a broad enough spectrum of people involved in decision making. A bit like small towns like where I live - a few influential wealthy people making poor decisions.

Sandy Brindley apologizes, kind of, but not really:
https://www.thetimes.com/article/2e2e664d-6229-4232-9e3c-46bf50d9ddbf?shareToken=42b0da2c481b5b2e0b7f3a38675f37c0

Informative comments on here, thank you.

And the article is blindingly unvarnished. They're even ditching the spurious she/her pronouns.

All that normality flying off the page makes you blink. Like going to the cinema in the middle of of the day, and emerging into sunshine.

SNP leaders were the ones who held the end of the party whip.
They could have binned the Greens whenever they wanted to.

I can't decide how much of it is because it's what they truly believed or how much of it was in a bid to be seen as "progressive and different to England" all on the "look we are different, they bad boys are stopping us going for GRR".

Everything SNP do is about independence, even covid measures were about being different, not about the science as many of us suspected on the Railing threads. It's coming out it was about being different.

Brindley still makes it sound as if wanting a women-only environment in a RCC is s niche demand that she is being really compassionate about supporting. Well, not supporting, obviously.

RCC ARE SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR WOMEN, BY WOMEN.

Any apology from Brindley is meaningless.

"Brindley said she “absolutely recognised” that women-only spaces were a priority for many women using rape support services. Critics, however, highlighted that Brindley had failed to define what constitutes a woman."

That's exactly the problem - her version of "women-only services" includes men who claim to be women. She either can't admit, or won't admit, or is too delusional to understand that it's the dogmatic insistence that 'transwomen are women' that directly caused the problems at ERCC, and those problems won't be put right until the dogma is rooted out. A person who is either lying or delusional isn't the person who will get Scotland's rape crisis services back onto a rational pathway.