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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Trans and health: reality bites

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QAOPspaceman · 19/09/2024 19:45

Maybe affirming people's fantasies doesn't help them or anyone else

www.theguardian.com/society/2024/sep/19/trans-people-england-missing-vital-cancer-screening

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BlackShuck3 · 21/09/2024 12:11

Surely all they need to do is identify as someone who doesn't have cancer?

Anastomosisrex · 21/09/2024 12:38

EdithStourton · 21/09/2024 07:49

Unfortunately I think getting everyone else to run around after you is part of the motivation for some people.

A teenager of my acquaintance, immature and a chronic attention-seeker (probably autistic; batshit mother) has not only changed gender but required everyone to follow obediently along through two changes of name.

Being able to garner loads of sympathy and control the adults is a win-win, and probably induces feelings of power. The person in question, given what I know of them, is highly unlikely to have the willingness or capacity to understand what the future might hold. There's no sense of responsibility there, either. I feel sorry for the kid, tbh: society should never have let this level of crazy take off and become normalised.

I agree. I find it interesting in the stories of detransitioning women, how often they mention that at the height of transition for them it was all about control. Who was controlled and willing to be controlled, who was not and therefore was cut off. Declaring pronouns is frequently a basic short cut statement of power and status. It basically goes "do you submit to my controlling your language and behaviours in our interactions?"

endofthelinefinally · 21/09/2024 12:43

Many of us were warning about this in 2016, perhaps earlier. I wrote to my MP warning about exactly this issue.

Snowypeaks · 21/09/2024 12:45

Control issues - very similar to anorexia.

HidingBehindTheWallpaper · 21/09/2024 12:52

Wasn’t there a case in America a few years ago when I transman died because no one could work out why they were in such pain? As the records etc said male no one had thought that being in labour might be the cause.

As for the transman who had a hysterectomy to avoid having to have a smear, I thought (but I might very well be wrong) that a hysterectomy left your cervix intact.

Anastomosisrex · 21/09/2024 12:52

And the aspect of needs being met by setting people up so that they cannot do right for doing wrong, and you're permanently entitled to be upset and angry with them.

We're back to cutted up pear.

misscockerspaniel · 21/09/2024 13:16

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/09/2024 14:38

It's probably too specialised, they might have to visit a zoo vet.

When I was at the Zoo earlier this week, I saw a poster that said that the average lifespan of a female orangutan was 60 years and that of a male, 50 years. And the first thought to enter my head (too obvious to state 😉) made me realise that I spend far too long on FWR.

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