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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The ludicrous Sam Fowles is at it again

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/09/2024 19:14

Comical self owning barrister Sam Fowles has written another article about how terrible gender critical women are.

https://x.com/samfowles/status/1835298409638494285?s=46&t=SPorwN-mokktL467rcZ57g

https://www.politics.co.uk/comment/2024/09/15/the-summer-that-exposed-the-anti-trans-movement/

"...In April the Cass Report gave a veneer of scientific legitimacy to the GC movement’s various claims. Both Labour and the Conservatives used the report as justification to prevent trans children from accessing puberty blockers (which, contrary to popular myth, do not prevent puberty but, rather, delay its onset). Cis children are still given accessss_. The report was swiftly rejected by medical bodies around the world."^

Was it now.

"...The events of the summer exposed the GC movement as, in the words of UN Womenen, an “anti-rights movement” which “puts the rights and lives of LGBTQI+ people at risk by… falsely portraying the rights of LGBTIQ+ people as competing with women’s rights.” In the UK, the movement has never achieved genuine popular appeal (despite near constant coverage, most voters polleded say they simply aren’t interested). Labour must consider whether, so early in its term, it wants to be seen as influenced by (what has now been revealed as), an extreme, fringe group.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/09/2024 19:15

Ugh, sorry about the formatting Confused

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Bannedontherun · 16/09/2024 19:34

Don't give this oxygen is all i can say.

Ingenieur · 16/09/2024 19:45

A veneer of scientific legitimacy

So much projection, it's unreal!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/09/2024 19:45

It's like performance art.

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spannasaurus · 16/09/2024 19:47

He thinks Joey Barton is one of the GC movement's highest profile voices 😆

Skate76 · 16/09/2024 19:49

Who's Joey Barton 🤷‍♀️

duc748 · 16/09/2024 19:50

Dickhead former footballer.

spannasaurus · 16/09/2024 19:50

Skate76 · 16/09/2024 19:49

Who's Joey Barton 🤷‍♀️

He's an ex footballer.

outdamnedspots · 16/09/2024 19:51

He is a complete tool totally divorced from reality. He doesn't believe the shit he spouts, does he?

soupycustard · 16/09/2024 22:20

He's not actually a barrister is he? As in, in real life, this utter muppet, logically and with intellectual rigour, analyses actual cases?! Dear God help us if so.

spannasaurus · 16/09/2024 22:43

soupycustard · 16/09/2024 22:20

He's not actually a barrister is he? As in, in real life, this utter muppet, logically and with intellectual rigour, analyses actual cases?! Dear God help us if so.

Unfortunately he is

lonelywater · 16/09/2024 22:49

spannasaurus · 16/09/2024 22:43

Unfortunately he is

that's what I have been asking. How can anyone who spouts wall to wall bollocks actually be a bona fide barrister?

ILikeDungs · 16/09/2024 23:16

Andrew Doyle has interviewed him a couple of times, and exposed him in such a beautiful and civilised fashion. Brought up his libel of Maya Allison and more in this one, with Toby Young

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/09/2024 23:28

Relevant thread as Sam is claiming we lose a lot of cases

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/5165172-gc-employment-tribunal-cases-have-an-incredible-78-success-rate

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RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 16/09/2024 23:46

ILikeDungs · 16/09/2024 23:16

Andrew Doyle has interviewed him a couple of times, and exposed him in such a beautiful and civilised fashion. Brought up his libel of Maya Allison and more in this one, with Toby Young

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Having listened to that, I would really like to ask Sam Fowles if he thinks he should be held to account for saying things that are untrue.

StealthSpinach · 17/09/2024 09:46

He seems remarkably uninformed about reality! How can he be taken seriously when he can’t even correctly define “gender critical”? Honestly, it just shows how ignorant he actually is…

AlisonDonut · 17/09/2024 09:49

Joey Barton really tickled me. I mean, come on Sam. Do better.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/09/2024 09:49

I think he's at least in part deliberately misrepresenting gender critical women to suit his agenda (for grifting purposes?). But I agree he's been stitched up by Andrew Doyle several times, so he's not the sharpest, despite being a barrister.

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 17/09/2024 09:52

He's a classic example of how promoting this ideology makes people look like incoherent clowns. Grin

pontefractals · 17/09/2024 14:16

He also thinks Judith Butler is a feminist icon.
There are no words.
Partly because Judith's used them all.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/09/2024 14:16

GrinGrin

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duc748 · 17/09/2024 14:19

Arf! 😃

Datun · 17/09/2024 15:18

MrsOvertonsWindow · 17/09/2024 09:52

He's a classic example of how promoting this ideology makes people look like incoherent clowns. Grin

He also said there's no evidence that Khelif wasn't female!

I have to say, trans ideology is the litmus test to end all litmus tests.

StainlessSteelMouse · 17/09/2024 15:32

I suppose it takes a certain level of intelligence to qualify as barrister in the first place, but sometimes I wonder.

Maybe Sam has an area of law that he's expert in, like Jolyon with tax. Because his interventions on this issue always remind me of a Bart Simpson book report.

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