Bill to amend Sex Discrimination Act Australia not allowed to be heard

[FeralWoman]

In the wake of the Tickle vs Giggle case in Australia a federal senator has attempted to propose a bill to repeal the SDA amendments made in 2013. This would remove any references to gender and restore the definitions of men and women to biologically based, and not gender identity. Unfortunately the bill wasn’t allowed to even be read in Senate after a vote of 32-27 against it.

The senator behind the bill isn’t one I’d normally support. She’s said some awfully racist and horrible things. However she’s the only politician willing to publicly stand up for women’s rights and attempt to change the law. Senator Pauline Hanson. This tweet gives details:

https://x.com/PaulineHansonOz/status/1834058868529529312

You are misreading it. There are the names of those who voted yes at the top, and no at the bottom.

FeralWoman · 13/09/2024 13:17

I feel like a traitor to my values and political beliefs posting that and supporting Pauline but the rights of women and girls are important.

It's akin to agreeing that, yes, it'd be great to have the trains run on time, but the whole invading Abyssinia and sucking up to Hitler schtick is a bit much...

@FeralWoman @NotBadConsidering

Thank fuck for that!

I thought it was two pages of people who voted against, not yeses and noes.

I’ll reserve my ire for the Pococks and others on that list.

I live in the ACT. Needless to say, Pocock will not be getting my vote next election.

Reminds me of Labour's insistence that the best thing to do is to let the muddle of the EqA and the GRA just roll on..... because the muddle benefits men at the expense of women, and that's how they want it to work.

The most important thing about women's rights and equalities is to first make sure they're not in any way impeding men's freedoms in using women. It is very shy, coy male supremacism without the guts to own it. And politicians, of both sexes, have settled this into culture and law.

Just wait until the mis/disinformation bill comes into law. We won’t even be allowed to say anything about trans women and women’s rights because it will be regarded as harming trans women, and then ACMA will be able to impose a civil penalty on individuals. Plus VPNs will be banned once the age verification laws for teens on social media are brought in. Banning of VPNs for everyone here in Australia. It’s bullshit.

Thank you for the screenshot.
It is truly appalling that there are senate representatives who refuse to even hear anything counter to their own warped views.

We had the BBC the other day framing 'Terfs' as those 'hostile to trans rights' and this is wholly acceptable in the national media, without adding that the women's views rest on overt hostility to their own rights.

Yes, 'hate' legislation will be used primarily to ensure that women speaking out against their abuse and loss of equality is criminalised. And that they are forced to pretend their exclusion and subordination on a sexed basis to further the freedoms of men is all wholly progressive and lovely.

A lot of left-wing women are 'intersectional feminists' who support transrights over women's rights - or don't see that there is a problem and won't listen to anyone who says there is.
I agree, in the UK (where I am) left-wing women have lead the fight against this idiocy. But they are frequently fighting their own political allies e.g. Rosie Duffield is a Labour MP but she is fighting the ideas of Angela Rayner etc and the front bench of what is now the government, which has said it will not redefine 'sex' in the EA2010 to mean 'biological sex'. The last government said they would, and then didn't - so they were treading water on the matter. The right wing tends to be misogynistic - yet Conservatives had provided all three women PMs - but does know what a woman is. The left appear to see 'change' as the same as 'progress' and thus all change is good, even when it obviously impacts badly on a sector of society (sometimes this damage is also seen as progress).
It is a mistake to assume that change is always for the better (and is the discredited Whig view of history that the left has inherited - the Whigs are the political outfit that stopped relief to Ireland during the Europe-wide famine of the 1840s because this distorted the market, the 'invisible hand' being seen as progressive over doling out charity; it's also the view that led Thatcher see UK manufacturing go to the wall because it could not compete against cheap foreign imports, whilst e.g. Germany supported its industry. It is Germany which is now more prosperous having kept its manufacturing base).

Mark Latham has long spoken against the trans movement, I believe, https://www.starobserver.com.au/news/nsw-government-rejects-one-nation-mlc-mark-lathams-anti-trans-education-bill/211092

Louise Pratt will never advocate against trans rights (this is an old article now. Wiki has her domestic life as having changed since). https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/wa/10-years-of-stm-louise-pratt-on-life-with-her-transgender-partner-aram-hosie-ng-eb2be39f1f0b6a67d979a26dabe5efd3

Mark Latham is a step too far. Horrible man.

@FeralWoman Quite possibly but he has a thick skin and a loud voice that gets a bit of airtime (I’m not in NSW so don’t see much). Both attributes much needed.

I’m having to support Nick Goiran over this way.

Claire Chandler's speech in the Senate about the Bill - and the politicians who blocked it.

wth?

Virtual private networks. Banning them is a form of censorship dressed up, I suppose, as protecting vulnerable people?

That speech is awesome. She said it all so clearly and confidently.

Is that directed at me? Because I know what a VPN is thanks.

It's not directed at you. But we are not all up with acronyms etc. So I looked up VPN and thought, oh, yes, that what I thought it was, why not say that instead of using initials? Because using initials and jargon is one way technocrats, for example, both exclude and alienate the rest of us.

Pauline Hanson attempted to get the bill read again yesterday. Again, not allowed. She’s posted the video of the whole exchange on YouTube and her Twitter/X account.

@Grammarnut 'A lot of left-wing women are 'intersectional feminists' who support transrights over women's rights - or don't see that there is a problem and won't listen to anyone who says there is.' Again I know, I've been aware of all of this since 2017.

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When the opposing politicians can’t argue on the facts they resort to bluster and emotionality and subversion of procedure to avoid debate - disgraceful.

But not everyone knows this and thus they sometimes have problems understanding why some women who call themselves feminists are willing to throw women's rights under the bus for men in frocks. I was making a general comment to all, after someone pointed out that many of those in the Australian bill incident were women who rejected a bill to enshrine and protect women's rights. As I said re VPN we are not all up to speed and some new MNetters may not understand or know about intersectional feminism. We are supposed to be discussing something, exchanging ideas and helping each other understand what is going on. We have not all been aware of this issue for as long as you, @RaspberryParade, so have a little patience while some of us catch-up and explain what we know and how we got there. You are not the only one reading the thread.