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Sandyford no longer to provide 'gender care' for children and young people

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ArabellaScott · 03/09/2024 17:21

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0jpy8l0weyo

'Gender services for children and young people in Scotland will now be delivered by paediatricians in a regional network of clinical settings instead of at the existing Sandyford clinic in Glasgow. '

'Access to the service is now only available following referral from a clinician, which Ms Minto said was in line with other child and adolescent specialist services.
New National Standards for Gender Identity Care include a commitment that young people will be screened for neurodevelopmental conditions and autism during initial assessments for gender dysphoria.
A new training framework is to be introduced too, aimed at improving specialist skills of staff who will work within an "evidence-based" approach.
Detailed care plans will be required for each patient to transfer from children's to adult services.

Supporters of the Gender Recognition Reform Bill (Scotland) take part in a protest outside the Scottish Parliament, Edinburgh, ahead of a debate on the bill

Gender services for children moved out of Sandyford clinic

Gender services for children and young people will now be delivered by paediatricians in a regional network of clinical settings, instead of at the existing Sandyford clinic in Glasgow.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0jpy8l0weyo

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GargoylesofBeelzebub · 03/09/2024 17:25

This seems like good news?

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Helleofabore · 03/09/2024 17:26

And GLP is ‘stepping back from
trans court cases’.

https://x.com/berk_hamstead/status/1830990411965333702?s=46&t=HTxp6zC_d4GZ2FFv4a-YeQ

Along with stonewall withdrawing from schools and colleges.

Big week!

x.com

https://x.com/berk_hamstead/status/1830990411965333702?s=46&t=HTxp6zC_d4GZ2FFv4a-YeQ

ArabellaScott · 03/09/2024 17:27

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 03/09/2024 17:25

This seems like good news?

Yes. It's NHS Scotland responding to Cass.

'Following the Chief Medical Officer establishing a multidisciplinary clinical team to consider, in the context of Scottish services, the recommendations of the NHS England commissioned Cass Review on gender identity services for young people; Public Health Minister Jenni Minto confirmed that the Scottish Government has accepted all the findings of the Cass Review: Implications for Scotland report, published in July, and that work is underway to implement its recommendations.
These recommendations include:

  • gender identity healthcare services for children and young people being provided in paediatric clinical settings
  • the provision of these services via a distributed network, or regional model, rather than on one site
  • an end to self-referral, with young people being referred to specialist services by a clinician, in common with other specialities.'
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ArabellaScott · 03/09/2024 17:27

' ....the Scottish Government has accepted all the findings of the Cass Review: Implications for Scotland report, published in July, and that work is underway to implement its recommendations.'

that's the important bit. 😊

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AmaryllisNightAndDay · 03/09/2024 17:31

Very good news!

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 03/09/2024 17:35

Ooh the Greens will be bealin. 🤭

news.stv.tv/scotland/scottish-government-accepts-findings-of-cass-report-on-gender-identity-healthcare-in-scotland

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 03/09/2024 17:36

Helleofabore · 03/09/2024 17:26

And GLP is ‘stepping back from
trans court cases’.

https://x.com/berk_hamstead/status/1830990411965333702?s=46&t=HTxp6zC_d4GZ2FFv4a-YeQ

Along with stonewall withdrawing from schools and colleges.

Big week!

Amazing!! The dominos they are a falling!!

ArabellaScott · 03/09/2024 17:53

The emperor has been stark bollock naked for a while. Finally people seem to be acknowledging it.

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ArabellaScott · 03/09/2024 17:55

Although the BBC article seems to be a bit coy about the moves being a direct response to and acceptance of Cass.

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FOJN · 03/09/2024 18:38

This will be a huge improvement in the care of gender distressed children if they can avoid recruiting cult members to staff the service.

ChaChaChooey · 03/09/2024 18:45

Well, this is heartening.

Expect FWR will have some visitors who vehemently disagree with this over the new 48 hours!

biddyboo · 03/09/2024 18:55

I heard this on the radio earlier, great news! And that the Scottish Greens weren't happy 😐I think at some point, the wider public will have to wake up to this medical scandal. There will be recriminations, and I hope the Greens will feel the full wrath of the country for their appalling stance on this. They honestly sicken me. I know it's not everyone in the a Green Party, but there seem to be very few party members who are willing to stand up to the zealots (well apart from this who've been booted out!)

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/09/2024 18:57

Encouraging news!

kiterunning · 03/09/2024 19:05

The adults are back in the room. Thank god.

lonelywater · 03/09/2024 19:05

what is that quote from Hemingway about going broke? Very slowly at first then all of a sudden. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth, I fear.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/09/2024 19:13

Expect FWR will have some visitors who vehemently disagree with this over the new 48 hours!

I imagine you might be right.

ArabellaScott · 03/09/2024 19:14

I guess this is what was behind the SNP announcement at conference.

www.thenational.scot/news/24555424.snp-members-vote-improve-access-gender-affirming-healthcare/

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Blink282 · 03/09/2024 19:18

Regardless of your stance on gender, surely no-one can argue that

These recommendations include:

  • gender identity healthcare services for children and young people being provided in paediatric clinical settings
  • the provision of these services via a distributed network, or regional model, rather than on one site
  • an end to self-referral, with young people being referred to specialist services by a clinician, in common with other specialities

can be anything except good in terms of safeguarding all young people and ensuring no harm is done unnecessarily.

ArabellaScott · 03/09/2024 19:20

Oh, plenty of people are very angry about the end of self referral.

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BonfireLady · 03/09/2024 19:36

Great thread.

I've just looked at the BBC article and it says it was updated an hour ago.

Does anyone know what changed?

The editing journey that a BBC article takes on this subject is often quite interesting in itself.

ArabellaScott · 03/09/2024 20:28

Bugger, I should have archived.

I think it might be the politicians' responses at the end have been added:

'Scottish Labour's Jackie Ballie said that staff would need additional support and training, while criticising waiting times - an issue she said was being exacerbated by staffing issues at the Sandyford.
She asked if a national service would "resolve" the waiting times issue.
Ms Minto said additional funding was being invested, and that a further review would take place.
She added that staff recruitment was "challenging" due to the nature of the transgender rights debate.
Scottish Conservative MSP Meghan Gallacher said the Scottish government had "snuck out" its response to the recommendations in the Cass review after July's general election.
She continued: "The SNP minister failed to answer a simple question about the future of puberty blockers in Scotland, leaving open the possibility of them being prescribed in Scotland again.
"If the SNP government are accepting the Cass Review’s recommendations in full, they need to get on with the job and provide clarity to vulnerable young people and families who are still waiting for answers."
The Scottish Liberal Democrats leader Alex Cole-Hamilton said the children "at the heart" of the debate would have been living in "profound anxiety" if their pathways had been paused.
Ms Minto said ongoing research through Glasgow University would help to ensure those directly affected would "have their voices heard."
Scottish Green MSP Gillian Mackay said: "Trans people know their own minds and experiences... There is clearly a lot more to do if we are to build a truly supportive, responsive and caring system and reduce the shocking waiting times that are causing so much misery."'

But will try to find an archive.

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ArabellaScott · 03/09/2024 20:31

Hm. No archive, but the webcache looks the same as current page. So - dunno!

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