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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Sandyford no longer to provide 'gender care' for children and young people

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ArabellaScott · 03/09/2024 17:21

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0jpy8l0weyo

'Gender services for children and young people in Scotland will now be delivered by paediatricians in a regional network of clinical settings instead of at the existing Sandyford clinic in Glasgow. '

'Access to the service is now only available following referral from a clinician, which Ms Minto said was in line with other child and adolescent specialist services.
New National Standards for Gender Identity Care include a commitment that young people will be screened for neurodevelopmental conditions and autism during initial assessments for gender dysphoria.
A new training framework is to be introduced too, aimed at improving specialist skills of staff who will work within an "evidence-based" approach.
Detailed care plans will be required for each patient to transfer from children's to adult services.

Supporters of the Gender Recognition Reform Bill (Scotland) take part in a protest outside the Scottish Parliament, Edinburgh, ahead of a debate on the bill

Gender services for children moved out of Sandyford clinic

Gender services for children and young people will now be delivered by paediatricians in a regional network of clinical settings, instead of at the existing Sandyford clinic in Glasgow.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0jpy8l0weyo

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BonfireLady · 05/09/2024 06:42

Igneococcus · 05/09/2024 05:22

Thank you for the share token.

It doesn't say anything new but the way that it says it all is very accessible to anyone. To the point where I think it could draw people in who have never had an interest in this before.

Quite often these articles are full of phrases that must sound weird if you've not done a deep dive in to the subject ("gender critical" for example) and I bet many people just scroll past. Or if they are in layman speak, they are vacuous and say nothing much more than "culture wars blah blah". This one has an eye-catching headline and the content gives the unavoidable takeaway that this is an unfolding disaster. And this time it's about cross-sex hormones specifically, not puberty blockers. There are whole paragraphs within it that raise eyebrows.
This one looks pretty stark, when you have already read the context above it:

New guidance for NHS staff issued in Scotland this week says staff must be able to “explain that the basis for proceeding [with hormones] is primarily based upon someone’s self report and there is no guarantee that endocrine treatment will offer benefit to them, or to the extent desired”.

To me, within the context of the whole article (and "experimenting" in the headline), this just reads as though they are being told to issue a disclaimer, not medical advice.

And to anyone who has already read that paragraph, the comment from the Scottish government sounds farcical:

Jenni Minto, the public health minister, was questioned about the guidance in place for GPs in Holyrood on Tuesday. She told MSPs: “We have been clear in our responses that it is the specialist centres that will be in charge of determining the support that children and young people get in this area.”

There is nothing "specialist" about giving someone a life-changing drug with unknown side effects, based on their own self-diagnosis.

lcakethereforeIam · 28/09/2024 23:30

The Times has a new article

https://archive.is/xEtZY

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/scotland/article/top-sandyford-doctor-raised-the-alarm-about-gender-clinic-in-2021-dgj58k0tv

The top Doctor there voiced his concern over an overly affirmative approach, politicalisation and staff worried about being accused of transphobia. His concerns were dismissed. I see these dismissals as complacency at best, as evidence of how deep the rot was at worst. The current lot cite these dismissals as evidence that everything was fiiiine.

Top Sandyford doctor raised the alarm about gender clinic in 2021

A whistleblowing report leaked to The Sunday Times shows that David Gerber was worried staff lacked caution when sending young people for reassignment treatment

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/scotland/article/top-sandyford-doctor-raised-the-alarm-about-gender-clinic-in-2021-dgj58k0tv

ArabellaScott · 29/09/2024 07:29

I can't imagine being a doctor who cared about children's welfare and overseeing this shitshow while being unable to stop it . From his whistleblowing report:

'The document says that by 2021 the Scottish government “began championing trans-rights issues including self-determination … blurring the distinction between biological sex and gender in law”. It alleges that a “lack of objectivity in staff assessing gender patients” developed amid this, including an “overly affirmative stance in line with the sociopolitical narrative”.
It also describes “fear of challenge among the staff group which relates to said narrative, as any questioning is deemed transphobic”.
The document states: “In particular, the young person’s service appears to have adopted an overly affirmative stance in their assessment process as illustrated by the numerous clinical examples above, all of which evidence relatively brief interactions and onward referral to endocrinology (hormone) services for medical intervention despite there being significant mental health issues in several cases and this seems to be at odds with the approach of the adult'

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 29/09/2024 07:36

The similarities with GIDs at the Tavistock are remarkable - and I suppose child healthcare the world over. Transactivists having excess influence and being able to infiltrate medical practice and ethics involving children.
I do hope that some of these people will be held accountable for their ethical and medical failures in the future.

Myalternate · 29/09/2024 10:00

I read or heard someone say something along the lines of the reason they come for our children is because Transgenders can’t have children themselves. To continue Transgenderism they need new bloodlines.

OldCrone · 29/09/2024 10:26

I don't think that's it @Myalternate, not least because most of the middle aged men who decide they have a womanly essence have already fathered children.

The reason for recruiting children is to support their claim that they were 'born that way' and have believed themselves to really be the opposite sex since childhood. So they invent stories about their own childhood and recruit children to be 'just the same as they were' when they were younger.

Conveniently missing out the part where they got married, fathered children and then realised that they got off on wearing their wife's knickers.

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 29/09/2024 13:50

"NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde, which runs Sandyford, investigated the complaint but did not uphold his concerns.

The issues were escalated to Scotland’s Independent National Whistleblowing Officer (INWO), who noted new procedures had been introduced in 2021 and under this guidance some previous cases would have been handled differently. However, it ruled out failure or risk to patients."

So Sinead Watson was just a figment of our overheated imaginations?

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