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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The Last Leg’s take on Valentina Petrillo

104 replies

MagpiePi · 03/09/2024 11:02

What a surprise! …not,
And this is despite so many people were asking #IsItOk for a 51 year old man to be competing in a women’s race?

The last leg

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CitizenZ · 03/09/2024 12:36

He's so smug about it too. I stopped watching years ago when it got too sanctimonious for my liking. Does anyone still actually watch it?

AlwaysSometimesRarelyNever · 03/09/2024 12:37

CitizenZ · 03/09/2024 12:36

He's so smug about it too. I stopped watching years ago when it got too sanctimonious for my liking. Does anyone still actually watch it?

This. I haven't watched it for years.

duc748 · 03/09/2024 12:39

I wonder how many of the Adam Hills's of this world (and there's a lot of them) will eventually recant, and realise that they were in fact on the wrong side of the argument?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/09/2024 12:44

SirChenjins · 03/09/2024 11:45

Wonder if Adam would be as supportive of this version of ‘inclusive’ if someone closed their eyes when running and claimed they were visually impaired in order to take part.

Quite!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/09/2024 12:44

They're just smug, misogynistic ladz.

TidyDancer · 03/09/2024 12:50

I used to love this show but gave up a long time ago given the level of misogyny displayed. Awful men who absolutely do know better.

MsNeis · 03/09/2024 12:57

SabrinaThwaite · 03/09/2024 11:19

‘Very inclusive’ - if you’re an over the hill bloke.

Useful photo.

Please, this is so awful... you can't run away from the photos... How can people justify this???

lonelywater · 03/09/2024 12:57

duc748 · 03/09/2024 12:39

I wonder how many of the Adam Hills's of this world (and there's a lot of them) will eventually recant, and realise that they were in fact on the wrong side of the argument?

think this will be tricky for a lot of people. they will probably say they went along with it because "everyone thought that then-it was fashionable", which outs you as being either thick or a coward. Or both. personally I think the silence will be deafening as all sorts try to pretend they never said those things. we, however, have receipts. A lot of people are going to look very stupid (at best) in a few years time.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 03/09/2024 12:59

corlan · 03/09/2024 11:18

Stopped watching years ago. Adam in particular gives off really smug woker-than-thou vibes. Off puttingly self righteous

I couldn't agree more, @corlan - I used to enjoy The Last Leg, until they went full-on TWAW, and now I can't see past that.

LittleGreenDuck · 03/09/2024 13:03

I used to really enjoy The Last Leg and actually quite fancied Adam Hills! They totally lost me a few series back when he made some patronising comment to women along the lines of "FFS, no one is trying to erase you". I am utterly unsurprised at their TWAW stance. So disappointing.

They've lost a lot of viewers and I suspect their days are numbered.

SissySpacekAteMyHamster · 03/09/2024 13:06

Used to watch it, but they totally outsmugged themselves a good while back.

Runningupthecurtains · 03/09/2024 13:14

I'm another former LL fan that stopped watching a few years ago. I skipped the week the penis pianist was on and never went back.

Why can't they see that a) elite sport isn't supposed to be 'inclusive' - it is by it's very nature selective b) that it is a sort of inclusion that excludes others. I'm sure Adam Hills would argue that he was excluded from sport so para sport was vital to him to enable his inclusion but he's not seeing that a category was created to enable his inclusion rather than abled bodies men having their category destroyed.

SinnerBoy · 03/09/2024 13:27

I used to like it, but it really over polished its right on halo too much for me. As others have pointed out, they're just a mob of smug preachers, out to browbeat any infidels.

And that prominent photo of Valentine really was instructive, I honestly fail to understand how people can honestly see such and go, "Yup, she's all woman." And that's not to mention that he's allowed 4 times the maximum testosterone of any woman.

Fuck him and the committee.

LittleGreenDuck · 03/09/2024 13:27

The irony is that this cheating man didn't even make it through to the final, so he's, at best, a mediocre athlete.

Rightsraptor · 03/09/2024 13:29

I'm no sports fan (or LL fan come to that) but I'd have thought the paralympics are even more exclusionary than the other ones. Not only do you have to be a brilliant athlete but you also have to have a disability. The vast majority of us are automatically excluded by those two metrics.

NeverMindTheBackProblems · 03/09/2024 13:34

I watched it last night just to see what they had to say. Agree with PP - there was no cheering to support the announcement and when they panned round the audience there were definitely some stony faces there.

RufustheFactualReindeer · 03/09/2024 13:35

Dh and i used to really enjoy it, never missed a show but we haven’t seen it in years now…probably for the best

Tooting33 · 03/09/2024 13:42

WickedSerious · 03/09/2024 12:20

They can fuck off to the arse end of fuck.

Yep. It makes me so furious how this man, who is perfectly intelligent, looks at JKR and decides he'd put money above integrity.

Because he knows a man has an unfair advantage. He just doesn't want to risk his career or be disliked for speaking truthfully.

bluelavender · 03/09/2024 13:49

Can you convert into a house with a separate studio apartment so that there is no net loss of housing?

Groveparker01 · 03/09/2024 13:51

Thing is, paralympics would still be inclusive if Valentina competed in the male category.

I mean, obvs Valentina wouldn't qualify for the male race, but in theory, having a trans woman in the 'correct' category is inclusive and wouldn't mean a woman loses out. I'd celebrate that.

Snowypeaks · 03/09/2024 13:57

SissySpacekAteMyHamster · 03/09/2024 13:06

Used to watch it, but they totally outsmugged themselves a good while back.

"outsmugged" 😂
Another one to file away and use at some point!

Runningupthecurtains · 03/09/2024 14:10

LittleGreenDuck · 03/09/2024 13:27

The irony is that this cheating man didn't even make it through to the final, so he's, at best, a mediocre athlete.

He's 51, a good two decades past a sprinter prime. He wouldn't get a sniff at elite competition at 51 even if he was outstanding at 25. But he and Hubbard competing as 'women' in their 50's and not winning gives the 'see no advantage' crowd something to point at because they are either too stupid or too willful to ignore the age factor.

TheKeatingFive · 03/09/2024 14:27

I suspect that the comedians circuit was always strong misogynistic - it's just that the left leaning types masked that well when female rights aligned with their own desires.

Now, when there's an opportunity to cheer on the bros and throw women under the bus, they're all over it. 🙄

YesterdaysFuture · 03/09/2024 15:38

#IsItOK to self-identify as disabled to take part in the Paralympics? No.
#IsItOK to self-identify as female to take part in female Paralympic events? Yes.