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Just one reason why sex segregated toilets are important for the safety and dignity of women and girls.

41 replies

TheCrenchinglyMcQuaffenBrothers · 30/08/2024 14:02

Well done that woman witness who spotted him and reported him. Well done the police for actually turning up, and quickly, and well done to either the journalist or court (not sure whose wording it is) for using the term Unisex and not Gender Neutral.

Can’t help but think, if these toilets hadn’t been definitely denoted as Women’s, the witness might not have felt so confident in reporting it and the police might even have dismissed it - after all why wouldn’t/shouldn’t a man be in the Unisex toilet?

https://www.kentonline.co.uk/herne-bay/news/man-with-fetish-for-listening-to-women-urinate-caught-in-pub-312009/

Man with fetish for listening to women urinate caught in public loos

A pensioner with a fetish for listening to women urinate claimed he was “desperate” from a stomach upset when caught using ladies’ cubicles.

https://www.kentonline.co.uk/herne-bay/news/man-with-fetish-for-listening-to-women-urinate-caught-in-pub-312009

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Plasmodesmata · 30/08/2024 14:12

This man is definitely missing a trick here. What he needs to do is claim to be a woman and then go to John Lewis where he will be allowed in the ladies no problem.

TheKeatingFive · 30/08/2024 14:16

I think it's hard for a lot of decent people to understand that there are perverts like this floating around. Which is making it difficult to make the argument that women need their own spaces.

TheCrenchinglyMcQuaffenBrothers · 30/08/2024 14:33

TheKeatingFive · 30/08/2024 14:16

I think it's hard for a lot of decent people to understand that there are perverts like this floating around. Which is making it difficult to make the argument that women need their own spaces.

Totally agree. Or they will create a false argument about how unlikely it is to be ‘attacked’ in a toilet and completely disregard that there’s a whole spectrum of other stuff that can also happen without it ever getting to physical violence. I don’t want some random man getting off on the sound of whatever it is I’m doing in the next cubicle, for his sexual fetish.

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DeanElderberry · 30/08/2024 14:34

TheCrenchinglyMcQuaffenBrothers · 30/08/2024 14:02

Well done that woman witness who spotted him and reported him. Well done the police for actually turning up, and quickly, and well done to either the journalist or court (not sure whose wording it is) for using the term Unisex and not Gender Neutral.

Can’t help but think, if these toilets hadn’t been definitely denoted as Women’s, the witness might not have felt so confident in reporting it and the police might even have dismissed it - after all why wouldn’t/shouldn’t a man be in the Unisex toilet?

https://www.kentonline.co.uk/herne-bay/news/man-with-fetish-for-listening-to-women-urinate-caught-in-pub-312009/

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DeanElderberry · 30/08/2024 14:37

Plasmodesmata · 30/08/2024 14:12

This man is definitely missing a trick here. What he needs to do is claim to be a woman and then go to John Lewis where he will be allowed in the ladies no problem.

Sorry everyone, I made this reply to the wrong post.

The bloke would not have got the same thrill from consenting women or women who were aware he was there. It's all about transgression of boundaries, intrusions into women's spaces.

duc748 · 30/08/2024 14:38

TheKeatingFive · 30/08/2024 14:16

I think it's hard for a lot of decent people to understand that there are perverts like this floating around. Which is making it difficult to make the argument that women need their own spaces.

It is. Chatting to a mate the other day, and I was saying how these "Urinals and cubicles" and "Cubicles only" loos are a really bad idea. But I don't think he really got it. Obviously, women do.

ThatsNotMyTeen · 30/08/2024 14:38

Dirty bastard

EuclidianGeometryFan · 30/08/2024 15:23

How thick is he?
Does he not realise all he has to do is put on a frock and slap on a bit of lippy and he gets in, no questions asked. He wouldn't even have to shave his legs!

NeverMindTheBackProblems · 30/08/2024 15:28

TheCrenchinglyMcQuaffenBrothers · 30/08/2024 14:33

Totally agree. Or they will create a false argument about how unlikely it is to be ‘attacked’ in a toilet and completely disregard that there’s a whole spectrum of other stuff that can also happen without it ever getting to physical violence. I don’t want some random man getting off on the sound of whatever it is I’m doing in the next cubicle, for his sexual fetish.

My TWAW friend just doesn't get it. When I tell her about things like this she always looks at me like I'm stupid and says "but this is man with a fetish not a TW."

Oblahdeeoblahdoe · 30/08/2024 15:29

duc748 · 30/08/2024 14:38

It is. Chatting to a mate the other day, and I was saying how these "Urinals and cubicles" and "Cubicles only" loos are a really bad idea. But I don't think he really got it. Obviously, women do.

This is what I experienced in Bristol last weekend. My DH actually said, what a good idea! Ffs!
Anyway, I'm in the process of writing to the the pub. I'm quoting the Equality Act highlighting there was no separate space for females which I'm led to believe is my right Anything else I could throw at them?

heathspeedwell · 30/08/2024 15:46

So as well as a fetish for listening to women urinate, he also has previous convictions for voyeurism and outraging public decency.

Further proof that paraphilias cluster.

misscockerspaniel · 30/08/2024 15:50

NeverMindTheBackProblems · 30/08/2024 15:28

My TWAW friend just doesn't get it. When I tell her about things like this she always looks at me like I'm stupid and says "but this is man with a fetish not a TW."

Please can someone (bat call to resident TRA) tell me how women are supposed to tell them apart?

TheKeatingFive · 30/08/2024 15:52

misscockerspaniel · 30/08/2024 15:50

Please can someone (bat call to resident TRA) tell me how women are supposed to tell them apart?

I think the official position is you can't, but that just tough 🤷‍♀️

PollyDactyl · 30/08/2024 16:13

But but but the lovely tw population (so demure, so cutesy) would never ever ever do something so horrid, and you are big meanies for even thinking that. Anyone saying they are a tw and is caught doing stuff like this isn't a real tw and are 'at it'.

What a dirty man. Well done that woman, now THAT was brave.

FranticFrankie · 30/08/2024 16:19

What a thoroughly unpleasant individual
Never heard of this fetish 🤢
Well done to the woman who reported him

RoyalCorgi · 30/08/2024 16:26

FranticFrankie · 30/08/2024 16:19

What a thoroughly unpleasant individual
Never heard of this fetish 🤢
Well done to the woman who reported him

Ah, I guess you must be new to the gender wars, then. Over the past few years I've learnt more about male sexual fetishes, including this one, than I could ever have dreamt of.

annejumps · 30/08/2024 17:18

RoyalCorgi · 30/08/2024 16:26

Ah, I guess you must be new to the gender wars, then. Over the past few years I've learnt more about male sexual fetishes, including this one, than I could ever have dreamt of.

And then there are the men who have a fetish for pads and tampons, sometimes used.

PollyDactyl · 30/08/2024 17:25

Vom.

GailBlancheViola · 30/08/2024 17:31

PollyDactyl · 30/08/2024 16:13

But but but the lovely tw population (so demure, so cutesy) would never ever ever do something so horrid, and you are big meanies for even thinking that. Anyone saying they are a tw and is caught doing stuff like this isn't a real tw and are 'at it'.

What a dirty man. Well done that woman, now THAT was brave.

Some very prominent TW (the ones that are fawned over by all the supine, gushing allies) filmed themselves talking, laughing and making fun of women urinating in toilets and the associated noise they make.

Alucard55 · 30/08/2024 19:28

NeverMindTheBackProblems · 30/08/2024 15:28

My TWAW friend just doesn't get it. When I tell her about things like this she always looks at me like I'm stupid and says "but this is man with a fetish not a TW."

Does she have any advice on how we tell the difference?

CucumberBagel · 30/08/2024 19:31

Men are so fucking weird. The fetishes they have are absolutely bonkers.

TheCrenchinglyMcQuaffenBrothers · 30/08/2024 21:48

NeverMindTheBackProblems · 30/08/2024 15:28

My TWAW friend just doesn't get it. When I tell her about things like this she always looks at me like I'm stupid and says "but this is man with a fetish not a TW."

Well, she’s right. It is a Man.
I’m not mentioning TW, there’s no need in this circumstance, because it outlines lots of women’s concerns beautifully. Because, by having Unisex toilets for what ever reason you automatically make women and girls less safe. Because we can’t tell by looking, and if the sign on the door says they’re allowed in, well, tough shit I suppose…..That’s the point.

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MishyJDI · 31/08/2024 15:55

Plasmodesmata · 30/08/2024 14:12

This man is definitely missing a trick here. What he needs to do is claim to be a woman and then go to John Lewis where he will be allowed in the ladies no problem.

Dont you find though that pervos won't put on a dress and pretend to be trans. Or dont need to. Hold the individual to account not a subsection of people.

TheKeatingFive · 31/08/2024 15:59

MishyJDI · 31/08/2024 15:55

Dont you find though that pervos won't put on a dress and pretend to be trans. Or dont need to. Hold the individual to account not a subsection of people.

They don't need to put on a dress. All they have to say is 'I'm a woman' and they have Carte Blanche to be in women's spaces.

Do you see the issue with this?

ApocalipstickNow · 31/08/2024 16:02

MishyJDI · 31/08/2024 15:55

Dont you find though that pervos won't put on a dress and pretend to be trans. Or dont need to. Hold the individual to account not a subsection of people.

Sometimes they pop on some pink leggings.

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