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Good Law Project - Money running out/ Joylon position unsafe?

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fromorbit · 28/08/2024 09:23

Labour Pains blog have revealed that GLP are running on dry:

Under the Sunak-led Tories, the GLP launched new crowdfunders at a rate of more than one a month: 21 of them in the 18 months from 1 January 2023 to the General Election on 4 July, contributing to an overall total of 73 since 2017. In July and August last year the GLP launched four new crowdfunded legal challenges. But since Keir Starmer entered Downing Street two months ago, this industrial scale grifting has ground to a halt.

In fact, since 4 July, the GLP have closed four crowdfunders (all launched in 2024), and as a result they currently have only three open crowdfunders, all of them moribund. In August last year the GLP grifted thousands of donations totalling £82,744 via 11 different crowdfunders. So far this month, they’ve raked in just five donations totalling a mere £45, including two simultaneous £1 donations that were most likely made by a criminal testing out stolen credit/debit cards.

Joylon has disappeared into the mountains since July 21st. At this moment we can neither confirm nor deny Mumsnet rumours he has been eaten by a pack of foxes led by the vixen partner of the fox he murdered. However it seems his position at GLP is being questioned:

More to the point, last week it emerged that the GLP Board – from which Labour peer Stewart Wood resigned on 31 July – feel much the same way. Because they are currently seeking to recruit an Interim Managing Director with a “demonstrable track record of successful design and delivery of change [sic]”

Jolylon the founding Executive Director will be "working alongside" this new hire:

The chosen candidate will have the unique chance to design and lead change, enabling the organisation to deliver its objectives while working alongside the founding Executive Director. The role is interim for six to nine months in the first instance.

Is he training his replacement?

[Anyway it seems his time off was not productive. Unlike JKR who was spending August productively building a polar bear army in Greenland.]

Although we love to hate the fox-botherer here I think we need to acknowledge the good GLP has done the pro-women cause.

By being spectacularly bad lawyers GLP has wasted over £200,000 crowdfunded pounds for gender cases which could have been used in far more dangerous ways. GLP has lost every single gender case it has taken to court though many didn't even get that far. This pushes case law in a more reality based direction.

It has helped solidify a trend where pro-women lawyers keep looking at a long list of wins. Meanwhile the legal profession who see Joylon and GLP as useless grifters are not impressed by the TA side.

He has strengthened the pro-women side inside Labour by pushing Wes Streeting and others more firmly into the reality camp.

He has led to the NHS officially discrediting the suicide myth.

It helped strengthen the position of the Cass Review and confirm its authority.

Read the whole blog for the full catalogue of failure:
https://labourpainsblog.com/2024/08/27/good-law-project-things-fall-apart/

Good Law Project: things fall apart

Next week, when MPs return to Westminster to begin work on the ambitious legislative programme set out in the King’s Speech on 17 July, the new Labour Government will be well into the second …

https://labourpainsblog.com/2024/08/27/good-law-project-things-fall-apart

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TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 28/08/2024 09:42

Give them enough rope and they'll hang themselves 😁

DrBlackbird · 28/08/2024 10:08

Before Jolylon went full on TWAW, I think I remember that the GLP had done some good work (around Brexit?). Maybe it’ll get back to that.

Chersfrozenface · 28/08/2024 10:18

DrBlackbird · 28/08/2024 10:08

Before Jolylon went full on TWAW, I think I remember that the GLP had done some good work (around Brexit?). Maybe it’ll get back to that.

The table only gives a total for the "Brexit era 2017 - 2020, i.e. £1,101,453 from 16 crowdfunders.

Were any of the cases successful?

Taytoface · 28/08/2024 10:24

Oh dear. Could not have happened to a nicer fox killer

ChaChaChooey · 28/08/2024 10:36

Aw! Poor Jolly-On.

He’ll have to tighten the belt on his kimono if the crowdfunded wage dries up.

Chersfrozenface · 28/08/2024 10:58

"Because they are currently seeking to recruit an Interim Managing Director with a “demonstrable track record of successful design and delivery of change [sic]”

I wonder the GLP Board means by "change". Do they mean dropping a "cause" / some "causes" and emphasising / taking up others? Or being more practical in the cases they take on i.e. cases with better odds of succeeding?

Will the vulpicide try to stymie any change of direction and/or undermine any appointee? Or will he flounce and try to start another grift?

Who will apply for the post?

BigBadaBoom · 28/08/2024 11:17

I wonder if we're seeing a general retreat in the UK from the more deeply rooted and widespread culture wars of the US. The Tories stoked the culture wars approach, but Starmer has very clearly not done that. And with Brexit being neither a glorious success nor a complete disaster, that is off the table too.

Without those drivers, the heat is coming out of the political system and the fringes now increasingly find themselves disempowered (the fascist riots were perhaps a response to that disempowerment?). The completely emotional and over-the-top behaviour of the GLP in response to Cass etc has highlighted why we don't like to do that kind of divisive drama over here.

lemonpepperlady · 28/08/2024 12:01

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WickedSerious · 28/08/2024 12:10

I'm devastated.

Chersfrozenface · 28/08/2024 12:12

Even the US is fast retreating from progessivism and identity politics - it barely got a mention at the Democrat Convention. The Dems have finally accepted it's not a vote winner.

The Dems are keeping quiet about it because it's not a vote winner. That doesn't mean they won't continue with gender lunacy after they've got the votes.

Watch what they do, not what they say - or what they keep silent about.

lonelywater · 28/08/2024 12:23

it would be not good news if fox botherer was either defenestrated or left of his own accord. Im reminded of the SOE (special operations executive-ww2 uk dirty tricks outfit) planning to assassinate Hitler. This plan was squashed at birth by everyone from Churchill downwards. This was not because Hitler didn't deserve to die (even if you oppose the death penalty you could see that any list of top ten cunts we could do without would have to include Hitler), but because he was the allies best asset, since he made all the strategic military decisions and was absolutely useless.

duc748 · 28/08/2024 12:25

Chersfrozenface · 28/08/2024 12:12

Even the US is fast retreating from progessivism and identity politics - it barely got a mention at the Democrat Convention. The Dems have finally accepted it's not a vote winner.

The Dems are keeping quiet about it because it's not a vote winner. That doesn't mean they won't continue with gender lunacy after they've got the votes.

Watch what they do, not what they say - or what they keep silent about.

Was just going to say, that doesn't really tally with the concern about Kamala Harris I've just been reading about elsewhere on MN, which seems well justified.

LizzieSiddal · 28/08/2024 12:42

You’d be absolutely mad to contribute to them given their track record of losses.

StainlessSteelMouse · 28/08/2024 12:45

I'm worried about Jolyon. He said he would be off TwiX for a fortnight while walking in the mountains. It's been six weeks, give or take a few days.

Is he spending forty days and forty nights in the wilderness? Will he return from the mountains with tablets of stone?

Chersfrozenface · 28/08/2024 12:51

LizzieSiddal · 28/08/2024 12:42

You’d be absolutely mad to contribute to them given their track record of losses.

Tactical expenditure.

I agree with the OP about the good the GLP and the vulpicide have inadvertently done with their unsuccessful cases.

readysteadynono · 28/08/2024 12:54

Aside from gender cases, they’ve done some good work. Organisations and people are rarely just one thing - good or bad.

Chersfrozenface · 28/08/2024 13:04

readysteadynono · 28/08/2024 12:54

Aside from gender cases, they’ve done some good work. Organisations and people are rarely just one thing - good or bad.

Really?

Going through the table in the linked article, even in the category of 'Environment', they've only won 3 of 11 cases.

Barbadossunset · 28/08/2024 13:20

I remember Gina Miller launching with a great fanfare of trumpets, press conferences etc a new political party, the True and Fair Party - but that seems to have sunk without trace.
I wonder if that was backed by the Good Law Project.

StainlessSteelMouse · 28/08/2024 13:36

I think the problem for the GLP's business model is that if you took its declared principles seriously then there's an argument for why something like the GLP is needed, but in practice it was entirely based on opposition to the then government.

That government is gone now, and readers of The New European aren't angry any more.

Chersfrozenface · 28/08/2024 13:40

Barbadossunset · 28/08/2024 13:20

I remember Gina Miller launching with a great fanfare of trumpets, press conferences etc a new political party, the True and Fair Party - but that seems to have sunk without trace.
I wonder if that was backed by the Good Law Project.

Not as far as I can see.

Gina Miller set up the True and Fair Foundation in 2009, and it was removed from the charities register in 2019.

In January 2012 she set up the True and Fair Campaign - no idea what happened to that.

The True and Fair Party, launched in January 2022, no longer exists. GM stood as the party's candidate in the 2024 GE, came 6th out of 7 and lost her deposit

TL:DR "True and Fair" seems to be solely a Gina Miller brand.

StainlessSteelMouse · 28/08/2024 13:43

To take the Covid contracts issue - I think legally it's a bit of a punt because the government could argue that normal considerations of competitive tender didn't apply in a crisis. But that's not my point.

Ursula von der Leyen, on behalf of the European Commission, also handed out contracts to well connected chums. This has become quite controversial in Germany. I think it would strengthen Jolyon's argument to be able to point to that and say, "it's not a Boris Johnson issue, it's the principle of holding power to account." But I can't imagine Jolyon saying that, and it's not what his (former) donor base would want to hear.

Barbadossunset · 28/08/2024 13:43

Chersfrozenface thank you for answering my question.
I feel a bit sorry for her in a way as all those projects must have needed a mammoth amount of work and money.

SinnerBoy · 28/08/2024 13:51

Chersfrozenface · Today 10:58

Just a quick round of applause for your excellent use of vulpicide!

duc748 · 28/08/2024 13:52

Of course the EU is a sea-green incorruptible, according to Jolyon and his chums. And of course it's anything but, like all large bureaucracies. Very much of a piece with the Remain organisation, another classic case of mission creep, as per Stonewall. The referendum is long gone, but that doesn't stop them telling us the EU is the most wonderful organisation in the world. I regret Brexit very much, but it doesn't mean I have unrealistic ideas about how un-corrupt it is.